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Looking for Baptism and parents of Sophia, I have found her marriage to Samuel Hathaway in 1816 in the parish of Churcham also I have Sophia on the 1841 to 1861 censuses, and her death in 1865.
Her marriage transcript yielded no clues to her parentage though there are two witnesses a John Coulson and John Stephens, there is a John on the 1841 census in Churcham aged 70 Occ carpenter also again on the 1851 for Churcham aged 84 here he states Beckford as place of birth.Any help would be much appreciated.
West.
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You haven’t told us Sophia’s approximate birthdate - how old was she in the census & death entries?
Where was she born according to the 1851 & 1861 censuses?
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The 1865 death date you have looks wrong, as she’s still alive as a widow in Churcham in 1871.
Sophia Hathaway born abt 1795 Churcham. RG10/2605/55/3.
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This death perhaps?
Sophia Hathaway aged 100, Jun qtr 1889 Westbury on Severn.
Newspaper reports confirm that the deceased lived in Churcham, and that there was a discrepancy between her age according to the relieving officer’s records (94) and the death certificate which stated it as 100. She had been receiving parish relief for 40 years, and her intellect was “very much impaired” though no reason is given for this.
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Thank you avm228 for your reply.
Yes you are right I missed my notes as to Sophia's death in 1889 and the date of birth of 1795 looks more likely, but I cannot find her baptism in Churcham, so i wonder if she is from Beckford which is now in Worcestershire.
Thank you.
West
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Using the Forest of Dean records for this family at Churcham - the surname COULSON is spelt in many various ways (even a note on Sophia's marriage in 1816)
There is this marriage at Churcham 9 November 1790 (again on the Forest of Dean records)
9 November 1790
John COLSON
Residence: Hamlet of Highnam
Mary DEE - Parish of Bulley
by banns:
witness 1: John Guise ?
witness 2: Ann BEAMAN
Memoranda: The Banns of Marriage between John COLSON of the Hamlet of Highnam in this Vicarage and Mary DEE of the Parish of Bulley in this Vicarage were duly published on Sundays October 24th & 31st and November 7th 1790 (no one forbidding them) by me Thomas PARK.
There are a couple of baptism of this couple at Churcham - will add.
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There are 39 records of the surname COULSTONES/COLSTON/COLSTANT/ etc etc
Sophia's marriage says, the Vicar spelt the brides name coulstone and then wrote COULSON in the margin.
Baptisms at Churcham in 1791 Ann COLSTON - parents: John & Mary and then Comfort CONSTANT in 1795.
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This ties up with the 1851 census: with John & Hannah - was this John's second marriage
Marriage at Churcham: 26 July 1825
John COLSTON of this parish
Hannah HODGES of this parish
by banns
witnesses: Wm MERRICK and Sarah HOOK
Burial at Churcham - 13 December 1860 - John COULSTON aged 93 - residence: Churchman
There are records on the above website for this surname and variations of since the 16th century.
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Also there is at Churchman
7 June 1795,
Timothy CONSTANT, parents: John & Jane Jean
Memoranda: The entry reads Timothy CONSTANT son of John and Jane Jean. It is not clear whether the surname is JEAN or CONSTANT
and then
5 March 1797
John CONSTANT, father: John mother Jane
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Thank you Capetown for the information.
I had noted the variations in the spelling of Coulson and also viewed the records on the f-o-d website but had discounted many of them, yes the marriage to Hannah has to be a second marriage for John.
The marriage to Mary Dee in 1790 is a possibility as this would fit in with Sophia's birth in 1795, but with no proof of a baptism for Sophia its still open.
Why would John put Beckford down on the 1851 census as his place of birth, he must have some link to there.
Thank you for help.
West.
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I am just going through Beckford on Ancestry - and so far..... looking for John COULSON c1767
There is a Christening at Beckford - 23 March 1764
John, yr Son of John & Hester COULSON
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On Page 202 of 329 - Beckford Register
John COULSON and Esther WILLS were married December 1st 1757
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Daughter Fanny? christened April 13 1760, parents: Jno & Hester COULSON
Burial - Dec 5th 1762, Hannah daughter of John & Hester buried
Baptism January 11 1768, Hannah daughter of John & Esther COWLSON
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Looking for other Colston's on the 1851 census born Beckford
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Welland, Worcestershire **
Wm COLSTON - 30 - Married born Beckford Glos
next door
Thos. COLSTON - 73 - (c1778) Farmer, born Beckford, Glos
Sarah COLSTON - wife - 66 - born Severn Stoke, Worcestershire
James COLSTON - son 28 - labourer, born Hinton, Glos
George COLSTON - Grandson - 11 - born Evesham, Worcestershire
(Thomas COULSON & Sarah RANDELL - tree on Ancestry, marriage at Tewkesbury, Glos 14 June 1808)
1841 Census, Hinton on the Green, Gloucestershire
COLSON
Thomas - 57 (c1784) - born in County
Sarah - 53 - not born in County
William - 23
James - 17
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Ancestry UK Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices
Welland, Worcestershire
Wm COULSON - Apprentice to Chas POWER- Wheelwright
Marriage November 8th 1763, Willm COULSON & Margaret UPTON
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Thank you Capetown for taking the time to search the parish register for Beckford. Still no sign of the elusive Sophia, perhaps she was baptised under another name and later adopted Sophia as a Christian name.
I will give much thought to the info you have supplied.
Thank you again and all very much appreciated.
west.
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Been trying to find out what happened to John & Mary's two daughters christened at Churcham
Ann COLSTON 1791 and Comfort COLSTANT 1795 - also his wife Mary - can't find any record of them.
The UK Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures which included
Wm COULSON in Welland, Worcester 1795 to Wm COULSON, a Wheelwright
1851 Census, Worcestershire, Birtsmorton
William CHARLSTON - 50 - Wheelwright, born Welland, Worcestershire, (assume son of the above)
Comfort - 10 - born Welland, Worcestershire ****
George - 8 (Freebmd - George Alfred COLSTON, Worcestershire, A/M/J Qtr 1853) - Mother's maiden name: Mcclee on GRO)
On the 1851 Census, Ancestry has the surname: CHARLSTON - but Comfort doesn't appear to have married and in later census 1911 the surname is COULSON. and in 1871 Comfort COLSTON
? Is Comfort a COULSON family name
1841 Census, Birts MORTON, Worcestershire
Lower Farm
William COLSTON - 40 - Carpenter
William - 11
Betsy - 10
Mary VEAL - 20 Housekeeper
Comfort (Ditto) ie VEAL - 6 months
John COULSON was also a Carpenter - in a similar trade
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Just to recap : John COLSON married Mary DEE - 9 November 1790 at Churcham, Glos.
Is this just a coincidence ??? UK Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices:
10 February 1795
Master's Name: John COLSTONE Jnr: Cordwainer
Apprentice Name: Thos DEE
residence: Castlemorton, Worcester
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On the Forest of Dean records - there are only two DEE'S listed at Churcham, the marriage of Mary Dee in 1790 and marriage of Caroline DEE in 1840, father Thomas.