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Title: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Magh Itha on Sunday 26 August 18 01:02 BST (UK)
A Richard Maurice Miller (son of William James) married Mabel May Connell (daughter of William Stephen) in Kilbeggan in 1914.
Would be grateful for any information on this family.
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: shels1 on Sunday 26 August 18 01:27 BST (UK)
can you give more details ie. death birth justr not a lot to go with
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 06:52 BST (UK)
The marriage in 1914 Church of Ireland, both full age.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09858/5580657.pdf
Richard was a Civil Servant, his father a Sculptor
Mabel father was a Harbour Master.

They had a daughter in Elizabeth in 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01377/1566916.pdf
Where Richard is Customs and Excise.

I can't see any of them in 1911, were they Irish?
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 06:59 BST (UK)
Ah this looks like the Connell family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Kilbeggan/Kilbeggan/887956/

And 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Kilbeggan/Kilbeggan/1785319/
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 07:18 BST (UK)
Harold Connell's birth gives mother Matilda's maiden name as Higgins
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02083/1794786.pdf

Eldest son on 1901 census, Walter, was born in America so it's possible the parents married there.
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 08:34 BST (UK)
Connell - 'Siggins' (sic) marriage was in 1887:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10810/5942545.pdf

Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 08:50 BST (UK)
I wondered about this guy in 1911, the image occupation looks like 'Excise officer' to me, if him, then born in England:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Tullow_Urban/Abbey_Street/312859/

Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: dathai on Sunday 26 August 18 09:00 BST (UK)
Richard Maurice Miller born 1887 Weymouth

Richard Morriss Miller christened 4th Dec 1887 Portland,Dorset to William James and Jane
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 09:06 BST (UK)

Just to note, until you can rule in or out, that a Richard 'Morries' Miller was baptised (CoE) on 4 December 1887 at Portland, Dorset, parents given as William James and Jane Miller, there was a birth registered for a Richard Maurice Miller in Weymouth registration district in the Oct-Nov-Dec quarter of 1887, volume 5a, page 319.

A 3 year old Richard M. Miller appeared in the 1891 England census with his parents William J. and Jane Miller and several siblings in Portland, his father's occupation was given as 'Monumental Mason'.

Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 09:07 BST (UK)
Sorry Dathai, I was looking at this and typing this up as you had posted.

Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 09:08 BST (UK)
Connell - 'Siggins' (sic) marriage was in 1887:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10810/5942545.pdf



Ah Siggins, looking a the birth of Harold again, the H on Harold is very clear and the S of Siggins looks like the S of Stephen.
No wonder I couldn't find the marriage. ;D
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 09:19 BST (UK)

... A 3 year old Richard M. Miller appeared in the 1891 England census with his parents William J. and Jane Miller and several siblings in Portland, his father's occupation was given as 'Monumental Mason'.


With the usual caveat about accuracy, there is at least one tree covering these folk on the Ancestry website, William James Miller's wife is cited as Jane Lano and there is other information including their parents, it all seems to be based in Dorset.

Edited to add: Presumably explains Richard Maurice Miller and Mabel May Connell's daughter 'Elizabeth Joy Lano' Miller born at Kilbeggan in 1915.

Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 09:51 BST (UK)

Ah Siggins, looking a the birth of Harold again, the H on Harold is very clear and the S of Siggins looks like the S of Stephen.
No wonder I couldn't find the marriage. ;D


I assumed the marriage was a transcription error, but it looks like it was Siggins, though struggling at this point to find Matilda's birth.
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: gaffy on Sunday 26 August 18 10:14 BST (UK)
There was a Church of Ireland baptism for a William Stephen Connell on 9 June 1859 (birthdate given as 15 May), the address was Fermoy County Cork and his parents were given as John Connell (Coast Guard Service) and Mary Ann (maiden name not given).

There was a Church of Ireland marriage on 8 January 1856 between a John Connell (a coast guard aboard HMS Blenheim, son of William Connell, pensioner) and Mary Ann Haslegrove / Hazlegrove (an infant school teacher, daughter of Stephen Haslegrove / Hazlegrove, a coast guard), both parties living in Fermoy.   

John and Mary Anne were in County Mayo in 1873 when they had a daughter Margaret:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03168/2162103.pdf


Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: dathai on Sunday 26 August 18 10:29 BST (UK)
Walter Connell born Boston 1888/1889 has second name as Hazlegrove .
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 11:20 BST (UK)
Possibility's
Difficult to read the Siggins address on the marriage but it starts with Newtown
There is a death of a George Siggins (married)Newtown 1889 aged 81 informant son Thomas
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06152/4757580.pdf
Note the death below George.

Given ages and names I think this might be his wife Mary
death 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05695/4605517.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Lissadill_West/Cloghcor/1680952/
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Magh Itha on Sunday 26 August 18 16:17 BST (UK)
I am just digesting all of the above and would like to thank you all so much for your efforts.
Title: Re: Miller Kilbeggan
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 26 August 18 17:01 BST (UK)
Just looking at other marriages for Siggins father George I think the address on Matilda's marriage is Ballinfull Newtown