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Title: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Tuesday 21 August 18 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi there,

After thinking i had my Murphy family sorted i have discovered that Gregory Murphy had 3 marriages.
The first one to Letitia Magill 21 april 1841.

I have found 9 children born between 1842 and 1860.
I am looking for info on all these children.

Luke, Elizabth, Agnes, Michael, Bridget, Margaret, Gregory, John & Letitia.

I know some went to Canada but looking for the others.

Liane
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 21 August 18 09:57 BST (UK)
Have you checked https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp  for any Marriages for them?
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 21 August 18 10:56 BST (UK)
Andrew Staples and Margaret Murphy 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11074/8052233.pdf

or 3rd from bottom
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st_lawrence_mf_1853-1880_ma_0879

Margaret deceased by 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Ardcavan/Ballina/1802953/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Ardcolm/Ballina/694366/
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 21 August 18 11:27 BST (UK)
After thinking i had my Murphy family sorted i have discovered that Gregory Murphy had 3 marriages.
The first one to Letitia Magill 21 april 1841.
I have found 9 children born between 1842 and 1860.
I am looking for info on all these children.
Luke, Elizabth, Agnes, Michael, Bridget, Margaret, Gregory, John & Letitia.
I know some went to Canada but looking for the others.

Birth or baptism dates? which ones went to Canada? no point in us searching for any of them in Ireland if they went away.
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 21 August 18 11:42 BST (UK)
Margaret possibly died 1894 age 35/36 from 15 Hardwick St informant not related
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05968/4696340.pdf

3 known children John, Mary and Lettia
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mkm/
sadly both John and Lettia both died shortly after birth
all the above can be found on the Glasnevin index
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/

you could find out from Glasnevin who buried Margaret 1894
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 21 August 18 11:56 BST (UK)
William Quirk and Lettia Murphy 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10991/8018995.pdf

or 2091 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633711#page/97/mode/1up
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Tuesday 21 August 18 12:24 BST (UK)
So far we have found Michael and Gregory in Canada.
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 21 August 18 12:29 BST (UK)
Letitia Quirk died April 1889 age about 27
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06143/4754879.pdf

her husband did'nt hang around long as he got married in October 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10750/5920303.pdf

possibly did not have children with Letitia
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/South_City/Wicklow_Street/1305147/
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 21 August 18 12:41 BST (UK)
So far we have found Michael and Gregory in Canada.

Dates? ages of other siblings?
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Tuesday 21 August 18 12:46 BST (UK)
Luke b 8/5/1842
Elizabeth 3/5/1846
Agnes  29/5/1848
Micheal  6/10/1850
Bridget  5/9/1852
Margaret  18/6/1854
Gregory  15/7/1858
John  30/3/1856
Letitia  28/10/1860


Would also like to find father of Gregory senior..Luke.....

Other children born to wife Teresa Hewson  Teresa Adelaide 29/9/1869
Francis Patrick 8/3/1871
Teresa 28/8/1868
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 07:42 BST (UK)
One you missed Mary
Mary Murphy dtr Gregory/Letitia,Williamstown married Thomas Caffrey a Carpenter 1865
interesting thing dispensation in 3rd Degree meaning blood related somehow
possible sister Elizabeth Murphy,Williamstown as witness
489 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633711#page/42/mode/1up

had 4 known children
Letitia Mary 1866
Catherine 1868
Bridget 1878 not registered
Gregory circa 1877 not registered
married Kate Keogh 1900

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10346/5766399.pdf
or
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=rathmines_mf_1882-1906_ma_0117
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Mount_Pleasant_Terrace/1293190/

Strangely a man of same name,occupation approx age born Dublin went to Philadelphia via Queenstown April 19th 1900 on ship ''Waesland''
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S7WX-97NM-Q9

edited to add
Mary Caffrey died 1879 at Albert Rd,Kingstown age 36
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06499/4871363.pdf
her will index says Mary Ann late of Williamstown and Albert Rd to Thomas Caffrey husband ,Carpenter ,Enniskerry
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014896/005014896_00053.pdf
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 08:32 BST (UK)
17th June 1865
Elizabeth Murphy dtr Greg/Letitia married Charles Clarke Coghlan witnessed by the Caffrey's
499 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633711#page/43/mode/1up

2 known children
Richard Emilius Coghlan 1868 died 1932 Toronto,Canada informant a brother Albert Coghlan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67MS-FXQ?i=400&cc=1307826
Emily Agnes 1869

1881 ??
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVFQ-NDW
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 08:37 BST (UK)
Albert marriage 1902 to Charlotte A Howes
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZBN-BHH
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:02 BST (UK)
28th April 1869
Bertha dtr Greg/Letitia,Williamstown to Patrick McKeon
671 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633711#page/56/mode/1up

no other records that i can see other than this erroneous looking death cert
Bertha McKeon  age 28 Spinster ? daughter of a butcher crossed out late of 162 North Strand Road informant Patrick McKeon same address
309 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06460/4857339.pdf
buried Glasnevin
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 10:46 BST (UK)
1849 Griffiths Valuations Gregory Murphy was leasing offices from Laurence Caffrey on Main St,Williamstown
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=1576448&county=&barony=&parish=&townland=
Thomas Caffrey who married Mary Murphy  parents were Laurence and Catherine
Laurence died 1857
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014882/005014882_00025.pdf
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 14:07 BST (UK)
Timothy Murphy,Williamstown son of Luke Murphy and Mary Kinsella ,Williamstown
married
Mary Stewart, March 31st 1856
number 7 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633711#page/4/mode/1up
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Wednesday 22 August 18 14:13 BST (UK)
Timothy? nos 7..is that brother of Gregory...sons of Luke?

Have just gone through all you have posted...thank you so much.

So im thinking im missing Agnes, Luke, Bridget, Margaret, & John.

Clearly i was missing Bertha and Mary from my list. IF Mary died in 1879 aged 36 she must have been born in approx 1843.

Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 15:45 BST (UK)
Make your own mind up on this one
Thomas Murphy married Mary Anne Pender July 1848 in St Catherines
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mko/

they also had a son Luke  203 born in Williamstown 27th April 1857
also on top of page is a daughter  Mary 195 of Timothy
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633709#page/17/mode/1up
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 22 August 18 20:46 BST (UK)
Glasnevin index  also shows when entering Williamstown into address box
https://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml

Teresa Murphy age 2 days 1868

Teresa Murphy age 34       1871

Thomas Murphy age 35     1879

Mary Murphy   age  55      1860

Martha Murphy age 66      1842

Alica Murphy  no age given 1834

John Murphy age 76          1879

John Murphy age 72          1868

John Murphy age 5            1860
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Thursday 23 August 18 10:30 BST (UK)
So are they death records?

John aged 5 would match
Teresa age 2 days and aged 34 are Gregory's second wife nee Hewson and their first daughter
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: dathai on Thursday 23 August 18 10:33 BST (UK)
Burial records
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 23 August 18 10:45 BST (UK)
Burial records


Which means they died!   ;D
Title: Re: MURPHY, Gregory from Blackrock (son of Luke Murphy)
Post by: smurf on Thursday 23 August 18 12:29 BST (UK)
haha funny...thank you.

Im digging deep....