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Trying to trace my grandfathers family, I know he left the area in 1911 as he joined the British Army and enlisted in the Leinster Regiment, I would so dearly like to hear from living relatives who could provide information on his family. He died in the UK in 1969 and, not a day passes without missing him still, hope someone can help.
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
Re: John Hanlon - BORN Rogan, County Laois (QUEENS) 1983
Do you mean 1893? 1883?
Did he marry? if so, is father's name and occupation listed on the certificate? mother's name listed? These details will help confirm if you've found the correct John Hanlon.
Births in Ireland were registered from 1864 so you should be able to find his online (free)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
The 1901 and 1911 census are also online (free)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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Thank you I have corrected the date of his birth, yes I know from the 1911 UK census when he arrived in England, also it showed what regiment he was in and where he was from so that helped a lot. Yes, he married in 1915 to my grandmother who was from St Austell in Cornwall, I will be applying for a copy of the marriage certificate, hopefully that will provide me with his parents names. It would be nice as I was very close to him, I was 12 years old when he died but we used to have long chats, he was a wonderful story teller however, he never spoke of his family I guess really would love to know more about where he really came from. Thanks once again for your help.
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As you probably know...there is only 1 contender on 1901 Census, is age 14
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You make the Statement
"John Hanlon - BORN Rogan, County Laois (QUEENS) 1893 "
Where did that come from??
Where is Rogan, County Laois?? Looked for it, don't see it!
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You make the Statement
"John Hanlon - BORN Rogan, County Laois (QUEENS) 1893 "
Where did that come from?? wrong spellings etc, I did not have my glasses on.
Where is Rogan, County Laois?? Looked for it, don't see it!
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Thank you so much for your help, yes that 1 listing is my grandfather, I feel quite emotional at the moment, your help is so much appreciated.
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he married in 1915 to my grandmother who was from St Austell in Cornwall, I will be applying for a copy of the marriage certificate, hopefully that will provide me with his parents names.
English marriage certificates, like Irish ones, only list fathers' names & occupations. Mothers are not listed.
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Yes, I am now aware of this after the wonderful advise I have been able to tract my great grandmothers maiden name down. Thank you.
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As you probably know...there is only 1 contender on 1901 Census, is age 14
Link, please.
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Hi Kate,
Is this your grandfather's death reg:?
Deaths Dec 1969
HANLON John James -Ja1895 Christchurch 6b 769
If so there is this birth which was registered in Jan 1895:
Date:25th Nov 1894
Place: Grogan
John Hanlon
Parents: Daniel and Ellen Hanlon (nee Bergin)
Father's occ: Labourer
Link:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02227/1839774.pdf
and this link to 1901 census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Rathsaran/Johnstown_Glebe/1652662/
Daniel and family in 1911 census (John not with them)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Rathsaran/Castlegrogan/796060/
Just in case this is your family, here's the link for Daniel and Ellen's marriage:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10554/5844904.pdf
Death reg for Daniel in 1930:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04922/4336447.pdf
possible death reg for Ellen in 1951:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04511/4186607.pdf
Death registered by son Michael, birth for Michael:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01528/1619763.pdf
Chris
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https://www.townlands.ie/laois/clandonagh/rathsaran/rathsaran/grogan/ (https://www.townlands.ie/laois/clandonagh/rathsaran/rathsaran/grogan/)
Grogan townland.
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As you probably know...there is only 1 contender on 1901 Census, is age 14
Apparently not the correct one so don't bother posting the link as I asked earlier- see reply #11
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As you probably know...there is only 1 contender on 1901 Census, is age 14
Apparently not the correct one so don't bother posting the link as I asked earlier- see reply #11
Ok!
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Hi Kate,
Is this your grandfather's death reg:?
Deaths Dec 1969
HANLON John James -Ja1895 Christchurch 6b 769
If so there is this birth which was registered in Jan 1895:
Date:25th Nov 1894
Place: Grogan
John Hanlon
Parents: Daniel and Ellen Hanlon (nee Bergin)
Father's occ: Labourer
Link:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02227/1839774.pdf
and this link to 1901 census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Rathsaran/Johnstown_Glebe/1652662/
Daniel and family in 1911 census (John not with them)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Rathsaran/Castlegrogan/796060/
Just in case this is your family, here's the link for Daniel and Ellen's marriage:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10554/5844904.pdf
Death reg for Daniel in 1930:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04922/4336447.pdf
possible death reg for Ellen in 1951:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04511/4186607.pdf
Death registered by son Michael, birth for Michael:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01528/1619763.pdf
Chris
A very big thank you, yes that is my grandfather, the past few days have been somewhat emotional by one the help I have received on this forum by very kind people like yourself and also finding this information out about his family. In 1911 he ran away from home, from what he said due to he poverty and joined the British Army to get a meal each day and have a solid pair of boots, as many other dear Irish boys did during this time. I am looking to trace direct descendants and would love to pay them a visit, I have always been told I am so much like him so it would be interesting to meet members of the family and see if we share common traits. Once again so very grateful you took the time to help. :) :) :)