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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: nbourkie on Sunday 05 August 18 12:22 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I'm looking for information on Jane Wride's (nee Spence) parents, JAMES SPENCE & JANE CHRISTIE. Jane Wride (nee Spence) was born abt 1869 in Glasgow and married George Wride in 1889 in Brisbane, Qld, Australia. I'm trying to work out when they immigrated and who her grandparents are as I keep getting conflicting results.
Thanks in advance :)
Naomi
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So you have this?
JANE Spence Birth 25 April 1869 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Parents;
James Spence
Jane Christie
1871 in Lanarkshire we have;
5 Crookston Street
Jane Sporic, 27, Wife, Husband at Sea, born Bruff, Renfrewshire
James Sporic, 4, Son
JANE Sporic, 1, Daug, born Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Joseph W Sporic ,
Charles Jones, 16, Visitor, born Forfarshire
1881 Census
Scone, Perthshire
Jane Spence, 37, Head, born Banff, Banffshire
James Spence, 14
JANE Spence, 11, Daug born Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Isabella Mc Donald Spence, 10
Other Births Tradeston to same Parents;
JAMES Spence 24 Feb 1867
ISABELLA MCDONALD Spence 4 Feb 1871
Trish :)
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Marriage;
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1864
Marriage Place: Perth,Perth,Scotland
James SPENCE to Jane CHRISTIE
Marriage;
Name: Isabella Mcdonald Spence
Spouse Name: James Winewood Peak
Marriage Date: 17 Mar 1899
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Number: 002328
Page Number: 24685
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I suggest you get the 1864 M/C available on Scotlandspeople :)
Also look at the 1871 Census on there as I think Joseph W Spence is likely Isabella. Anc as you know does not have the image to check.
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FreeREG has;
JANE Christie
Baptised 12 Mar 1844, Parish Church, Banff, Banffshire
Birth 14 Jan 1844
Parents ALEXANDER/JANE Christie
Mothers mn Mackenzie*
Fathers Occp Mason
1861 Census a Jane Christie born c 1844 Banff, is a Servant in Perth Burgh, Perthshire
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I suggest you get the 1864 M/C available on Scotlandspeople :)
Would confirm parents names
One to bear in mind as a possibility for Jane's father James Spence naming pattern perhaps
her sister named Isabella McDonald Spence
James Spence Birth 7 Jul 1841
Baptism 18 Jul 1841 Perth,Scotland
Father: Andrew Spence Mother: Isabella Macdonald
1851c 19 Kirkgate Perth
Andrew Spence 40
Isabella Mcdonald 38
Jane Spence 19
Betty Spence 17
William Spence 14
Isabella Spence 11
James Spence 9 Perthshire
Andrew Spence 7
Hay Mcdonald Spence 2
Jane Thomson 14
1861c 23 Kirkgate, Perth
Andrew Spence 50 Green grocer
Isabella Spence 48
Isabella Spence 21
Andrew Spence 17
Hay Spence 12
Andrew Spence Spouse: Isabell Macdonald
Marriage 5 Apr 1830 Perth,Scotland
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Queensland immigration records are free to view online.
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Image/DigitalImageDisplay.aspx?ImageId=39305#page=14&view=Fit&ispdf=true
Debra :)
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Death
1920
B32228
James SPENCE
Parents: Andrew SPENCE & Isabella McDONALD
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/20420913
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/20417752
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
Death
1908
B9995
Jane SPENCE
No parents named
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/19537129
Debra :)
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Naomi has another thread on Australia board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=797983.new#new
- so I've added the link from this board to Australia board as not to duplicate efforts
You may already have this info. from Trove but just in case..........
1908 Funeral Notice
Friends of James Spence, Engineer, Harbours & Rivers Department respectfully invited to attend funeral of his deceased wife , Jane Spence at 2pm
Friends of Mr & Mrs George Wride, jun., Mr & Mrs James Peak & Miss Ella Spence respectfully invited to attend the funeral of their deceased mother-in-law & mother
Mrs Jane Spence, at 2pm, Toowong Cemetery
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mgs/
Edit - Sorry Debra I see I've duplicated info. already posted by you ::)
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Thanks Debra, took a lot of scrolling down but I found them :)
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As James SPENCE was a marine engineer it is unlikely that there would be an immigration record for him but if he worked the east coast you may find him on crew lists here:
http://marinersandships.com.au/search.htm
Debra :)
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Wow thank you all so much for the information and links! I'm so grateful for your help. I'll go have a look at the suggested m/c as well and see what I find there :)
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As James SPENCE was a marine engineer it is unlikely that there would be an immigration record for him but if he worked the east coast you may find him on crew lists here:
http://marinersandships.com.au/search.htm
Debra :)
Ah, yes, that makes sense. I'll search that link. Thanks, Debra :)
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1871 in Lanarkshire we have;
5 Crookston Street
Jane Sporic, 27, Wife, Husband at Sea, born Bruff, Renfrewshire
James Sporic, 4, Son
JANE Sporic, 1, Daug, born Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Joseph W Sporic ,
Charles Jones, 16, Visitor, born Forfarshire
Trish,
1871 on SP appears to run over 2 pages
SPENCE JANE
1871
27
644/9 74/ 1 Tradeston Lanark
SPENCE JAMES
1871
4
644/9 74/ 1 Tradeston Lanark
SPENCE JANE
1871
1
644/9 74/ 2 Tradeston Lanark
SPENCE ISABELLA M ??? (Likely M(a)cDonald)
1871
0
644/9 74/ 2 Tradeston Lanark
Strangely, I didn't pick up a Charles Jones 16 in either the Spence household or elsewhere?
There's a Charles Jones 32 & a John Chalres (sic) Jones 19 both elsewhere?
Annie
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Update: I found these on Scotlandspeople but the last two don't give parents names. Is there any way to search for them?
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If any of the people you're looking at, died in Scotland post 1855 their parents names including mms should be on their DC if the info. was known to the informant of the death.
Annie
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1830 Marriage you posted has Isabella as the Daug of James MacDonald a Merchant.
Familysearch.Org has this possible;
ISOBELLA McDonald christened 11 March 1813, Perth, Perth
(birth 10 March 1813)
Parents; James Macdonald and Jean Cameron
Siblings christenings on there;
JEAN 24 Nov 1805
BELL 31 May 1807
ELSPITH 18 May 1809
JAMES 9 Dec 1810
HAY 15 Sept 1816********
Marriage of James/Jean 8 December 1800 Perth, Perthshire
***** looks good as Andrew/Isabella Spence name a Son Hay Mcdonald Spence
1841/1951/18611871 Hay is in Lanarkshire, Occp Saddler.