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Title: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: AshbrookCheshire on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:45 BST (UK)
Hi,
I'm trying to find the marriage of Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley to find out Mary's father's name. I believe they were married in the first quarter of 1844 in St Saviour, York. I want to track down who Mary was.
Thank you,
David
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 25 July 18 15:58 BST (UK)
Do you have a source for St Saviour having been the venue?  Marriage Locator is not coming up with a location for this marriage.

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:03 BST (UK)
You probably need to purchase the marriage certificate if the information isn't online anywhere.

Mar 1844 York

Volume 23 Page 613

Have you found them on census after marriage?  Sometimes you get lucky and a mother or father is living with them and you find out that way. 
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:04 BST (UK)
I see that there was a child born around the same time as the marriage:

Henry Ashbrook, mmn Lumley, birth reg Mar qtr 1844 York.

Henry was baptised at St Saviour on 29 February 1844.  Parents: Henry (painter) and Mary, of Bellerby's Buildings, Garden Place.

He may be the 15mo old Henry Ashbrook (of Aldwark) buried at St Cuthbert's, York, on 6 May 1845.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:17 BST (UK)
Findmypast has a good Yorkshire collection, but it is a work-in-progress and coverage of marriages for St Saviour's, York is currently limited to the date range 1886-1930.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 25 July 18 16:57 BST (UK)
Hi possible family in 1851
HO107/2353/365/50? Mary 30 b Thirsk.
Keyboard86

EDIT Henry Ashbrook 34 occ Painter b Ireland
Mary 30 b Thirsk
Mary 5 b York
Henry 2 b York
Fowlers Buildings, Bedern.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: Bee on Wednesday 25 July 18 23:27 BST (UK)
Do you have a source for St Saviour having been the venue?  .


Source appears to be Yorkshirebmd.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 25 July 18 23:47 BST (UK)
Do you have a source for St Saviour having been the venue?  .


Source appears to be Yorkshirebmd.

Ah yes  :)
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 26 July 18 00:04 BST (UK)
Hi all, Henry Ashbrook birth registered June qtr 1848 York v23 page 752 mmn Lumley, anyone found the Mary from 1851 aged 5?
Keyboard86

Henry occ Painter b Ireland seems to be married to a Maria in 1861?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 26 July 18 00:09 BST (UK)
The 5-yr-old daughter in 1851 is Elizabeth rather than Mary.  I haven’t found her birth reg though.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 26 July 18 00:12 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Ann Ashbrook, 6, of Bedern, was buried at St Maurice, York on 19 January 1853.
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: AshbrookCheshire on Thursday 26 July 18 00:42 BST (UK)
Thank you very much everyone!
I have Henry in 1871 as a widower, and 1881 in the workhouse.
There is a son Henry born 1844 who died young, and then another son Henry born 1848.
There is 17 years between Mary and Maria's birth dates, which suggests that they are different women, not just a misspelling, so it looks like Mary Nee Lumley died somewhere between 1851 and 1861. 
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 26 July 18 00:58 BST (UK)
Have you traced Henry b1848 after 1851?  Are you descended from him?
Title: Re: Henry Ashbrook and Mary Lumley
Post by: AshbrookCheshire on Friday 27 July 18 01:39 BST (UK)
I'm not actually related: because there aren't many Ashbrooks I've tried to collect together as many as I can, and this is one where I feel I should be able to get further and am struggling, and thought someone familiar with Yorkshire might be able to help break through.

There is a Mary Lumley baptised 8 Sep 1822 at Topcliffe By Thirsk, to George and Elizabeth Lumbley. Our Mary's information on the 1851 census would make her born 1821 in Thirsk, so the above looks like a good fit, but I have no idea how common Lumley is in the area, and don't have any definite link.

I think this might be a case where I have to wait for Yorkshire's records for the period they were married to come online, or hope that I end up in York for some reason eventually, and pop into the records office.

Thank you all for your attempts to help,