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Hello,
We have a bit of a mystery and brick wall and are hoping someone can help us.
Our ancestor, William WHELAN, is stated as being an "Inspector on the Duke of Manchester's Estates" in 1847 when he was a witness in court proceedings in Newry. At the time he stated he lived in Corrinshega, Killevy.
At his son's, William WHELAN's, marriage in 1852 to Mary BLACKHAM in Newry, his occupation is listed as an 'Inspector'.
So we are guessing that he worked on the Duke of Manchester's estates from at least 1847-1852. We are guessing this to be the Tandragee Castle Estates.
How would I find information on William WHELAN or the Duke of Manchester's Estates? Are there any other records which can be searched online for Newry?
We live in Australia. :)
Claire Kelly
Melbourne, Australia
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Not online but.....
Legal papers relating to disputes between the Duke of Manchester and his tenants, 1841-1914; correspondence with estate agents re Portadown and Tandragee estates, 1833-1959, map of Manor of Ballyoran, Co. Armagh, the property of Robert Sparrow, surveyed by William Grieg and John Hill, 1820.
Collection: Manchester Papers (additional)
Location
Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, D. 1248 add.
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Land Commission papers relating to the Manchester, Cope and Close estates, Co. Armagh, and the Downshire estates, Co. Down, 1874 - 1916.
Location
Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, D.935: (Contd.)
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So, during the Great Famine!
Skoosh.
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you probably know all below but just in case
Wikipedia
gave me
Corrinshego (from Irish Cor-fhuinnseoige, meaning 'round hill of the ash tree')[1] is a townland in the Parish of Middle Killeavy, County Armagh, Northern Ireland. It lies 1.6km (1 mile) to the west of Newry in the Newry and Mourne District Council area.
Corrinshego stretches steeply up Camlough Mountain almost to the summit, with all of the area south of the Carrivekeeney Road inside the Ring of Gullion Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.
~The Whelan family name is recorded in
Tithes Applotment Books
1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books
based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s
listing for each parish in Northern Ireland,
which are quicker to lookup if you know the parish!
The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast
it’s a one liner no genealogical information. and incomplete.
Whelan, Alexander-- Townland: Ballainen Year: 1834-Loughgilly-Armagh
Loughgilly is the neighbouring Parish on the North western boundary of Killevy
Whelan, William-Tl: Big Bodara Yr: 1826-Rossory-Fermanagh
did the Duke of Manchester borrow his William
my thought is Alexander could be William’s father.
1860’s Griffiths Valuation of Ireland use the quick index of http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php for map references and more details use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
1864 use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
WHELAN THOMAS ARMAGH KILLEVY
WHELAN JOHN ARMAGH KILLEVY Landlord is a John Whelan
Unoccupied ARMAGH KILLEVY Landlord is a John Whelan
Unoccupied ARMAGH KILLEVY
WHELAN JAMES ARMAGH LOUGHGILLY
WHELAN JOHN ARMAGH LOUGHGILLY
Whelan, Rev Peter Gallash killesher Co Fermanagh
one can continue property valuations coming up to 1920s at PRONI
for map references and more details use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
tandragee Tandragee is a village on the Cusher River in County Armagh, Northern Ireland. It is situated in the civil parish of Ballymore
www.ancestryireland.com marriage records
WHELAN WILLIAM 1830 no entry Antrim
WHELAN WILLIAM H H 1852 father WILLIAM Down
WHELAN WILLIAM 1885 father WILLIAM Antrim
WHELAN WILLIAM 1885 father WILLIAM Antrim
gravestones
WHELAN Knockbreda Knockbreda Breda Down
WHELAN Camlough Old Killevy Cloghinny Armagh
WHELAN Knockbreda Knockbreda Breda Down
WHELAN Drummaul CI Drummaul Randalstown Antrim
WHELAN Lisbane RC Ardkeen Lisbane Down
the tombstone further described on
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?id=522&page=465&prevStartQuery=2320&theme=Infant&Send=Send
"The Lord gave and the Lord taketh away, Blessed be the name of the Lord" Sacred to the memory of Mary Whelan, who departed this life 22nd July 1868 aged 70 years [b~1798 but maiden name And of her infant daughter Mary, who died in the Year of 1834 when a few days old.
[check the above in burial book for informant]
Genes Reunited has nothing
Emerald Ancestors has
1869 birth William Thomas WHELAN M further details join. Armagh
needs more investigation could be grandson
and then the 1901 and 1911 census
good luck onwards
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a wee bit more
proni list of voters
2825WhelanThomasDrumnahuncheonEarl Gosford1832?
Got a notice of ejectment by Jno Whelan, Lord O'Neill's bailiff for the Randalstown mill concern, for non-payment of rent 1½ year due his Lordship at May last. I paid John Thompson half a year that he never paid to L[ord] O'N[eill]. It now appears that I am to lose the property after an expenditure of upwards of £3,500. The weather has been remarkably fine for the past month and an abundant crop will be saved. [26 Oct 1840]
PRONI OS/9/7/2
Drawn by G. Wakeman & Wm. Whelan. Stamped by J. W. Dowdall, Examined by J. P. West; Levels plotted by P. Mathews, E. Whitewright & James A. Watts. Finally examined in the field 1893. Countersigned by Captain R. P. Lee. Scale: [1:1056].
PRONI Reference : OS/9/18/3
Drawn by G. Wakeman, Wm. Whelan, Boundaries inserted by R. H. Mooney, Stamped by W. Patterson & Jos. P. Stubbs, Examined by John West. Levels plotted by T. S. Rigden, typed by E. Whitewright & examined by Jas. Watts. Finally examined in field 1893. Countersigned by Lieutenant Colonel H. Kirkwood. Colour washed. Scale: [1:1056].