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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Jumpinjackflash69 on Friday 20 July 18 23:22 BST (UK)
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Good Morning'
i am looking for the birth of a relative who was born i a place called Mokoan in Victoria and was wondering if there were any churches or records because i cant find her birth. I found her Death and have just purchased the certificate and it states she was 21 when she died and she was born in Mokoan. I cant find the birth but in saying that she had a sibling who's birth wasn't registered. I cant find any historical society, any help would be appreciated.
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google maps will give you the location of the Makoan district, east of Melbourne.
You will then see the names of surrounding suburbs and areas where you might pursue your inquiries.
It is difficult for anyone here to assist without a name for your relative.
Offline resources frequently reveal information not always seen online.
Sue
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So her name was Violet Harrison and her death and it states she was born in mokoan arount 1897 (date by information on death cert) she was my g granmothers sister they have different fathers
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Is the death reg you have:
7599 1919 HARRISON Violet May Father's name Unknown Mother's name Unknown (Unknown) Place of death Kew Age 21
Jamjar
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What were Violet’s parents names?
I’ve found one buried in 1918 - but can’t see the death reg - with an Adelia Ann who died in 1920.
Jamjar
Added: One in 1919 buried with Walter German Harrison
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Is this it:
1918 778 HARRISON Vi May Father's name Harrison Jno Mother's name Adelia (Pettis)
J.
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Thought these names rang a bell :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758734.0
Jamjar
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Delia Ann MURTHA married John Alfred HARRISON in Victoria in 1916. (Amended am I mixing mother and daughter up??)
Olive May MURTHA born 1895
Violet May ??? born 1897
((Violet May's birth registration surname couldn't be Harrison that is for sure, also perhaps not Murtha, as Olive May Murtha appers in the Vic BDM's))
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Here is the birth registered in 1899 in Victoria.
Violet MENTHA, mother as Delia. # 25024.
JM
ADD,
Vic bdm online index allows wildcard search. I searched for Violet with mother as delia from 1890 to 1900.
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Wonder why they thought she was 21 when she died in 1918?
She was born at Carlton Women's Hospital.
Sue
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Is this birth relevant?
MINTHA, Jos Stanley
Father UK
Mother Delia MINTHA
At Carlton
1900/25077
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There was an inquest into the death of Violet May.
Index records-
Date of inquest 30/6/1919
Cause of death Broncho Pneumonia
Ref 587
Sue
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Mmmm...
I am feeling a little unsure about the birth JM has posted.
Here is the birth registered in 1899 in Victoria.
Violet MENTHA, mother as Delia. # 25024.
JM
There seems to be at least one other birth in the maternal name.
MENTHA Bedelia
Father Unknown
Mother Bedelia MENTHA
Year 1898
Reg 19504
At HOTHAM EAST
There are also a couple of deaths with Bedelia MENTHA as mother.
???
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There was an inquest into the death of Violet May.
Index records-
Date of inquest 30/6/1919
Cause of death Broncho Pneumonia
Ref 587
Sue
Think that is the one buried with Walter. Interred 1-7-1919.
J.
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Umm
Welll...wellll... errr..
Well found Sue. ;D ;D
Liikely the actual bdm image will be needed to sort who was who.
JM :)
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Bedelia Mentha the infant is also listed here
INFANT LIFE PROTECTION ACT INDEXES M-Q
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/140063/20140715-0924/helendoxfordharris.com.au/archives/1966.html
Sounds like she was not being cared for by her mother but a nurse (Children are under two years but not newborns)
So if you are not nursing your child you can have another pretty quickly, which might explain the close together birth registrations
However also listed is Violet Frances Mentha 1899, that is not Violet May?
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Death of Violet Frances
MENTHA Given namesViolet Frances EventDeath Father's name / Spouse's family nameUnknown Mother's maiden name / Spouse's given name Bedilia (Mentha) Reg. year1899 Reg. no14862
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There was an inquest into the death of Violet May.
Index records-
Date of inquest 30/6/1919
Cause of death Broncho Pneumonia
Ref 587
Sue
Think that is the one buried with Walter. Interred 1-7-1919.
J.
Yes. That makes sense.
Sue
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So my Violet on her death cert states she was 21 at the time of her death and that she died as a result of an infection from a pregnancy termination mother was Adelia Harrison nee Pettis
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Certainly looks like she was not registered?
Mokoan seems to have been a farming area that is now a lake? There is a map in a video here showing names of farm owners in the area.
https://wintonwetlands.org.au/learn/european-history/
It is curious that other sister Olive was registered twice, once as Murtha and once as Pettes. Was this around when Parick Murtha abandoned his family? Who was Patrick working for? Did they own any land here?
Must have been a terrible time
What about trying this Benalla Group, they are close by and the name Harrison appears in the members interests
http://www.benallafamilyresearchgroup.org/familyhistories
Was he the John Harrison paying rates here?