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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: DougNZ on Friday 20 July 18 06:04 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I'm interested in any information on John SCOTT, b. 1806 (place?), married Anne JEFFRIES at George Town in 1851, had four children (Walter, Frances, Alfred & Frederick, whose birth dates I have), and died 1861 at Launceston.
John began as a pilot on the R Tamar about 1828 and became Senior Pilot about 1856 until his death in 1861. I suspect Benjamin SCOTT (m. c1857, d. 1869), who was also a pilot on the R Tamar, was his brother, as he was an executor in John's will.
Can anyone find John's birth or entry into Australia? Or anything of relevance, please?
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Not sure if you already have this information - John SCOTT, pilot was declared insolvent in 1850
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65976210
Modified to add:
Actually this may not be your John SCOTT, as there appears another in Launceston with wife Isabella in 1852, also a pilot. :-\
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65578584
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Hmmmm... thank you for those insolvency articles.
I have just discovered that John SCOTT first married Isabella FURNESS in Little Broughton, Cumberland, England in 1828. They seem to have had two children there and five at Launceston, where he was noted as a pilot. Isabella, a pilot's wife, appears to have drowned at Longford, just south of Launceston, om 07/01/1849. That would fit the article ... except it is written after her death!
As noted above, he remarried in 1851 and had a further four children.
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I suspect Benjamin SCOTT (m. c1857, d. 1869), who was also a pilot on the R Tamar, was his brother, as he was an executor in John's will.
The following news clips further support a relationship between Benjamin and John SCOTT.
July 1861 Launceston
On 29th instant, at his residence Patterson-Street(near the Cataract Hill), Mr. John Scott, aged 55 years. The funeral will leave his late residence on Thursday, 1st August, at 3 o'clock p.m. Friends are respectfully invited to attend. E. Hudson,
Undertaker.
Launceston,1869
DEATHS.
On June 7, at his residence, Pilot's Station, Low Heads, Mr Benjamin Scott, aged 40,
for many years pilot on the river Tamar.
The funeral will leave the residence of Mrs John Scott, Patterson-Street, West, on Thursday, June 10, at 3 o'clock. Richards
& Son, Undertakers.
Lauceston 29 April, 1890
SCOTT.-On 28th April, at the residence of his mother, Patterson-street, Frederick
William, youngest son of the late John Scott, Senior Pilot, aged 30 years.
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Thank you! Yes, Benjamin was John's first child, born in England.
In what context was Frederick William reported, please? Wedding or funeral?
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Hi,
Tasmanian Royal Kalendar and Almanack 1850
List of vessels belonging to owners residing in V. D. Land.
Port of Launceston
Schooner Blossom, 44 tons, owner, Tulloch, skipper, R. SCOTT.
Schooner, Ida, 50 tons, owner, Scott, skipper, John SCOTT.
Gerry
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Tasmanian Directory, (MacPhail) 1867-68
SCOTT, Benjamin., pilot, Low Head.
Gerry
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Thank you! Yes, Benjamin was John's first child, born in England.
In what context was Frederick William reported, please? Wedding or funeral?
In the context of Death. 29th April 1890
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150325992
Sue
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Thank you! Yes, Benjamin was John's first child, born in England.
The death notice I have offered above refers to the man you suspect to be brother, not son of John SCOTT
It caught my eye because you gave the death date in your opening post as 1869.
The funeral seems to have left the home of his sister-in-law.
Sue
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Thank you so much, Sue and Gerry.
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Use Trove -
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
search words...……. John Scott pilot...…… (for Tasmania newspapers)
to find events in life of his family during his life, and after his death.
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Thank you for pointing me to the search function for Trove. I was getting in via Google but the search is so much better.
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Hmmmm... thank you for those insolvency articles.
I have just discovered that John SCOTT first married Isabella FURNESS in Little Broughton, Cumberland, England in 1828.
Just to note that John SCOTT (mariner, otp) married Isabella FURNESS 25 Sept 1831 at St Peter's Liverpool by licence. Witnesses were Mary Ann FURNESS and Thomas FURNESS. (from Lancs Online Parish Clerks)
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I suspect Benjamin SCOTT (m. c1857, d. 1869), who was also a pilot on the R Tamar, was his brother, as he was an executor in John's will.
The Benjamin SCOTT who died in 1869 was only aged 40 so would be a son, not a brother.
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-38p74j2k
I suspect Benjamin SCOTT (m. c1857, d. 1869), who was also a pilot on the R Tamar, was his brother, as he was an executor in John's will.
Who and where did Benjamin marry?
Debra :)
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Yes, Benjamin was the son. He 'married' Sloane Jane Tully and they had eight children. I have not found their marriage, which should be about 1855. Sloane's father was Assistant Harbour Master at Launceston.
I have also not found Benjamin's birth, which I was expecting to be 1829. John and Isabella's marriage in Liverpool in 1831 seems a bit 'late'. However, John is named a mariner in the banns; that might account for him becoming a pilot in Tasmania.
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Her name is recorded as 'Salome' when her children were born and seems more likely to be correct than her baptism.
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/
They were married in Victoria in 1853.
Marriage
Registration No. 31672
1853
SCOTT, Benjamin
TULLY, Solome
Debra :)
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Thank you so much, Debra.
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Not sure whether you have searched Trove yet, there is also this article which mentions John SCOTT as a pilot in 1838
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65949667
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Thank you. Yes, I've had a look through Trove. Thanks for the link to the article. It's dated from not long after their first child born in Tasmania came along.
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Been hunting for Benjamin's birth (without success so far, sometimes they do like to make it difficult!) ... you mentioned there were 2 children born before they came to Tasmania, what is the name of the other one?