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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Poodlebell on Thursday 12 July 18 10:06 BST (UK)
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Hi
this message is for Steve Bibby, don't know how to do it any other way.
I was reading your article on DNA testing and about the Bibbys and Scandanavia.
I had my DNA tested and my line is gt grandmother Charlotte Bibby, I sent her photo to you, her father John Bibby 1819, his father 1795 from Chelmsford and I came back with 24% Scandanavian, which was a shock as I was convinced I would be all Essex
Europe
95.8%
•North and West Europe
75.7%
English
34.8%
Scandinavian
24.7%
North and West European
16.2%
•East Europe
20.1%
East European
20.1%
Africa
4.2%
•North Africa
3.2%
North African
3.2%
•West Africa
1.0%
Nigerian
1.0%
100.0
how is mine compared to yous
poodlebell
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If you want to send Steve Bibby a personal message find a post he has made and click on his name and that will take you to his profile page. On the left hand side of that page you will see a link that says "send PM", click on that and it will open a new page for you to write a personal message to Steve. When you send the message Steve will then be alerted to the message and will be able to look it up straight away.
hope that helps.
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Poodle bell, the second word of the phrase "ethnicity estimates" is very important. This is a new technology, and it is based on many parameters. While autosomal matching of relatives is amazingly accurate, the ethnicity aspects should be taken with a large pinch of salt. I recently got mine telling me that I am 8% Greek, which came as very much as surprised as I have no Greek references in my heritage. If you read a lot about DNA ethnicity estimates on the internet you will understand more and it will put your mind at rest. Just about everybody has these unexpected readings comma and once you understand the whole concept you will find that these are not unusual at all. Try this one :
https://www.geni.com/blog/dna-testing-for-genealogy-getting-started-part-four-376433.html#
I can't believe I have just addressed somebody as poodle bell
Martin
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Hi davidft and Mart 'n' Al
Thank you for your replies and help.
I really cant understand the dna, I have read up a bit, but I read an article that Steve had done saying about the Bibbys coming from Ireland to Liverpool and that the Southern Bibbys were probably from that.
Poodlebell is I have a poodle and name Bell
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A large part of what became England was populated by people from Scandinavia. They were commonly known as Vikings. This period of history was recently dramatized in a TV series "The Last Kingdom" based on novels by Bernard Cornwell. They also settled in Ireland and France. Some of the Ireland-based ones migrated to England after defeat by King Brian Boru in 1014. Parts of Britain were ruled by Scandinavian kings at various times up until 13th century. Then in 1066, William of Normandy (France) invaded England and his Norman barons, descended from Vikings (hence Norsemen or Normans) took over England. So lots of opportunity for Scandinavian DNA to be spread around England during 3 centuries.
I expect my English ancestors who were known to have lived in Lancashire in 16th century had a fair bit of Scandinavian DNA.
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Thanks for the link, Mart.
Another page of that website has a piece headed: Admixture and the "Scandinavian Question"
"... these discoveries support the notion that the British Isles was a true melting-pot long before the U.S. gained that moniker ..." It goes on to question the definitions of "British" and "Scandinavian".
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Poodle bell, the second word of the phrase "ethnicity estimates" is very important. This is a new technology, and it is based on many parameters. While autosomal matching of relatives is amazingly accurate, the ethnicity aspects should be taken with a large pinch of salt. I recently got mine telling me that I am 8% Greek, which came as very much as surprised as I have no Greek references in my heritage. If you read a lot about DNA ethnicity estimates on the internet you will understand more and it will put your mind at rest. Just about everybody has these unexpected readings comma and once you understand the whole concept you will find that these are not unusual at all. Try this one :
https://www.geni.com/blog/dna-testing-for-genealogy-getting-started-part-four-376433.html#
I can't believe I have just addressed somebody as poodle bell
Martin
I'll see your 8% Greek and raise you 11% Iberian! Family Tree DNA originally had me 5% Finland and Northern Siberia, which I was quite pleased with, then they changed their minds, deleted my Finnish/Siberian DNA and decided that, apart from the usual British component, I was 33% Scandinavian (having been 0% before), 11% Iberian, and for a bit of exotica, 3% Sephardic Jewish Diaspora and <2% West Middle East (trace element).
You think that's pretty cool? Wait till I give you the numbers for MyHeritage. They think I'm 6.8% Iberian, 2.1% Italian, 4.7% Baltic, 1% West Africa and 1% Nigeria.
I call that not bad for an east-coast Scot whose most exotic ancestors came from Northumberland and Co. Down.
Harry
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If you want to send Steve Bibby a personal message find a post he has made and click on his name and that will take you to his profile page. On the left hand side of that page you will see a link that says "send PM", click on that and it will open a new page for you to write a personal message to Steve. When you send the message Steve will then be alerted to the message and will be able to look it up straight away.
hope that helps.
Easier to click on the personal message "button" below the persons avatar, the symbol that looks like a page from a book with a dog ear.
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He's called SBib, I think
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=145987
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Hi
thank you all for your help, I have now read up a bit and find that it depends on the site you are on, and how many people they have to compare with, I really thought my DNA wherever it went was going to be just me and not a compared DNA with others. So think its right to say with a pinch of salt.
I have a poodle and my name is Bell so it made sense to me!!!
Poodlebell
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Poodlebell, I notice you have traveller ancestry. Maybe your forebears travelled farther than you imagined. ;D
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Made me laugh, could be but I got back to only 1795 and its all Essex
Poodlebell
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Just a theory on the African bit, again from British history. Soldiers in the Roman Legions, some of which occupied Britain for 300 years came from all over the Roman Empire including Africa. Military service lasted for decades. Many soldiers would have had relationships with local women. A Legionary could be granted land when he retired from long service. Some chose to settle in the country where they'd spent most of their adult life.
Britain had foreign trade links throughout this period so lots of comings and goings.
You should be able to find information about African presence in Britain during the past 2000 years.
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Made me laugh, could be but I got back to only 1795 and its all Essex
Poodlebell
Several maternal and one paternal line of my mother's ancestry came from the same region of Lancashire. I know the paternal line and one maternal line were there in mid 1500s and remained until early 1800s. According to legend some Vikings fleeing Ireland after defeat in the Battle of Clontarf settled there. Surname of 2 of those maternal lines is Moon, one of the commonest names in their parish. It's supposedly derived from de Mohun, Norman French, so yet more Vikings. All these maternal lines often married cousins or people with the same surname.
A lot of place-names are of Norse origin. Many words in the English language are derived from Old Norse.