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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: lmel on Monday 02 July 18 17:24 BST (UK)
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Hi wonder if anyone can help . If someone died in Ballyeaston and Ballyalbana where would they be buried? one died in 1898 and the other 1903 much appreciated .
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Ballycor Civil Parish
contains both, heres a starter
from https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records
C.I. Ballyeaston (Connor diocese)
[In Ballycor and Rashee parishes] [Earliest records destroyed in Dublin]
Marriages, 1845-93.
Baptisms, 1866-; marriages, 1894-; burials, 1888-; preachers’ books, 1888-.
P. 1st Ballyeaston
Baptisms, 1814-1924; marriages, 1813-90; marriage Notices, 1933-2002; indexes to baptisms, 1814-1924; census, 1813.
P. 2nd Ballyeaston
Baptisms, 1821-61, 1865-7 and 1883-1967; marriages, 1826-41 and 1845-1936; marriage notices, 1938-2002; burials, 1842-9 and 1901-18; committee minutes, 1869-1941; session minutes, 1862-1956; communicants’ lists, 1847-58; accounts, 1893-1903; seat list, c.1870; list of stipend payers, 1873-91.
R.C. [Ballycor parish was part of the Roman Catholic parish of Larne and Carrickfergus – see under LARNE and then became part of the Roman Catholic parish of Ballyclare – see under RALOO]
You can look these last ones yourself in https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records
Sometimes the C of I buried other denominations.
Below is the 1901 census of names living in Ballyalbana or Ballyalbanagh see http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballycor/Ballyalbanagh/and your relative is listed in it, he or she should be one of the them. The census will give you denomination etc
Adair
Adams
Adrain
Armstrong
Barber
Beggs
Blair
Boyd
Brown
Brownlee
Buchanan
Buchannan
Burns
Carmichael
Clarke
Craig
Davidson
Davison
Dougall
Elliott
Finlay
Forsythe
Gardiner
Gardner
Gilmer
Gowdy
Graham
Grogan
Harvey
Havelin
Haveron
Hoey
Houston
Hutchinson
Irwin
Irwine
Knox
Love
Lusk
Macrory
Marshall
Martin
Mc Clean
Mc Gookin
Mc Ilwain
Mc Ilwaine
Mc Murdie
Mc Tall
McCauley
McClean
McGookin
McIlwaine
McLean
McVeigh
Moore
Murdoch
Murphy
Neil
Rea
Reynold
Robinson
Service
Smyth
Stewart
Taggart
Topping
Ward
Wilson
Witherspoon
York
Yorke
Good luck onwards
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Sometimes a newspaper notice might list where the funeral was going to. Place of burial probably depends on religion and possibly earlier family connections. Here's a graveyard map which might give you some ideas, however, not all people had gravestones and not all that do exist are online or have even been transcribed.
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?antrim
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Thank you for your help much appreciated
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Hello
There are graveyards at Rashee, Ballynure, and Ballyclare which could be possibility's.
Can you give us the name of the people your looking for?
I have some photos of gravestones for Old Rashee graveyard and Ballynure. I could have a look for you.
John
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Hi John the names are Robert Davidson died 12th April 1898 in Ballyalbanagh his wife Eliza Davidson died 26th January 1903 in Ballyeaston this would be a great help, as I am in Ireland at the moment thankyou.
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as you are there, heres my offering
not straight forward
Second Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church [the church with burial records 1842-9 and 1901-18]
19 Trenchill Rd, Ballyeaston, Ballyclare BT39 9SJ
ie West of Ballyeaston village
400 yards away from
First Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church
Lower ballyboley Road, Ballyeaston, BT39 9SH
ie East of Ballyeaston village
which in turn is going 400 yards further eastwards is the start of Ballyalbanagh Road
1901 Census from http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Your Eliza is not Lizzie Davidson living in 1901 at 41 in Ballyalbanagh (Ballycor, Antrim)
Your Eliza is not Elizabeth Davidson living in 1901 at 34 in Ballyeaston Town [ballyclare]
the most likely person in 1901 census is
2 in Ballyeaston (Ballyclare, Antrim)
Davison Eliza 75 Female Head of Family Presbyterian Co Antrim - Read and write Irish and English Widow -
Davison Robert 25 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Farm Servant Read and write Irish and English Not Married -
Although name entered for each as Davison I think in a different hand, the final signature is E liza Davidson. Whose property included a fowl house
Griffiths valuation continuation books https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ for Ballyeaston see VAL/12/B/1/4A (1864 - 1866)
John Davidson has crossed out entry for 3a John Davidson crossed out, replaced with James Gilmore/Gilmour has 5 acres no building
time reasons left out some books
Griffiths valuation continuation books for Ballyeaston see
VAL/12/B/1/4E (1897 - 1904)p164
12 Wm Thos Davidson has house valued £1 pa
15Ba Robert Davidson living with note change 1898 building valuation £1 ten shillings pa looks like left to son by landlord rather than widow
VAL/12/B/1/4E (1897 - 1904)p164
17 Brown Davidson has6 acres no bldg
Griffiths valuation continuation books https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ for Ballyeaston Village of Ballyeaston
Ballyeaston Village of Ballyeaston
Brown Davidson Lic’d under
VAL/12/B/1/4E (1897 - 1904) p175
44.17 John Davidson Ho Office
44.18 Archibald Davidson Ho Office and garden
VAL/12/B/1/4E
44.17 15Ba Robert Davidson crossed out Davidson in 1907 Ho Office
44.18 Archibald Davidson Ho Office and garden
that lead me back to the griffith primary valuation
Davidson John Ballyeaston Ballycor Antrim
has 3 acres land at 3A. sadly the particular map used has no map refs for the townland , the original might be seen at Ballymena Hdgs library or the current valuation office, Belfast
Davidson Hugh Ballyalbanagh Ballycor Antrim has map ref 66 21 acres and a house valued £1 five shillings. No other houses are visible, as unexpected
I think this map ref works showing a the top end of 2nd unnamed road going northwards of the Lower Ballyboley road at 50 lower Ballyboley Road. in an easterly direction spiral northwards showing a large barn sitting over a house
going to a satellite view the google map direction is ttps://www.google.com/maps/dir/54.7803362,-5.9704554/Lower+Ballyboley+Rd,+Ballyclare+BT39+9SL/@54.7891346,-5.9736499,43m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x4861a576996a875b:0x5e208b266bfa7f3b!2m2!1d-5.9975339!2d54.7742634!3e0
Also ref 57Bc John Davidson is living in a modest house valued at 5 shillings pa. I can find 57B but not 57Bc the townland suddenly is constricted just below its most northerly neck where a place name exists Whitefordstown this a mile and a quarter, northwards, the road divides the north westroad immediately becomes the s w part of John Davidson little house area. His homestead that bldg. marked with a c might be indistinct within the constricted neck small bulge above the constricted neck
see http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/single_layer/i8.php?lat=&longt=&dum=0&sheet=39,45&mysession=2605855667868&info=&place=&county=ANTRIM&placename=BALLYALBANAGH&parish=BALLYCOR&country=Ireland&union=&barony=ANTRIM,%20UPPER
I close with a peep at the Tithes Applotment book Tithes Applotment Books
1823-1837 to find no listing appears for Ballycor The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast it would be worth checking no listing exists.
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Thank you John for the information this gives me a lot to work with
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HI lmel
I check the records I have from First Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church and found that Robert Davidson and Elizabeth Mcllhenny had two children baptised in the Church.
Surname Sx Childs Christian Name Fathers Christian Name Mothers Maiden Name Mothers Christian Name Dy Mt Year Area born
DAVIDSON M Thomas Robert McIlhenny Elizabeth 6 12 1856 Ballyalbnah
DAVIDSON F Margaret Robert McIlhenny Eliza 6 1 1859 Ballyalbna
From records I have from Second Ballyeaston I found the Funeral of Mrs Eliza Davidson 27th Jan 1903 at 2pm. Buried in Rashee graveyard aged 77. She was from Ballyeaston.
John
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Hi
I have also discovered they were married In First Ballyeaston Presbyterian on 8th November 1851.
John
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very well done John, all i can add is from Griffiths primary valuation
Mc Ilhenny Alexander Ballyeaston Ballycor Antrim map ref 22b house with small garden valued at fifteen shillings pa again problem with the particular version of Griffiths original map.