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Hello There,
I realise this may be a long shot.
I have been trying to work out which Henry Furneaux of Paignton is which, and which one fits in as being the father of my William:
A Henry Furneaux married a Christian (somebody) in Paignton in 1565.
The original image for the marriage on Find My Past just says:
"Henry Furneaux married Christian."
One of his sons William Furneaux baptised 1579 in Paignton was one of my 11x great granddad's.
There was a Will of Henry "Furnis" of Paignton dated 13 Mar 1587/88:
"Will of Henry Furnis of Paignton, signed 30th year of Eliz'th, proved 13 March,
1587-8, Exeter Consistory Court. Inventory £180:17:0. Daughter Johan
Furnis, son Roberto, son John the elder and John the younger, and children oi
John the elder. Also son Henry Furnis. Christian his wife sole executrix. Henry
Furnes and Robert Furnes witnesses. ":
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...
There is also a Will of Henry Furneaux "The Elder" of Paignton dated 19th of Sep 1625.
He names his "eldest son" William Furneaux "residuary legatee and executor".
This William is named William Furneaux, the elder: William did have son called William.
I estimate he was baptised in Paignton in 1579, my 11x great granddad. William married Jane Chaddor/ Chadder in Paignton in 1598. He mentions sons of William called James and Robert which I have been able to find:
"Will of Henrie Furneuxe the elder, of Paignton, Devon, Yeoman, dated 19th
Sept., 1625, pr. 6th Sep., 1626, Exeter, Bp.'s Peculiar, Consistory Court. Son John,
also John son of aforesaid John. James, son of William Furneuxe the elder, his
son Robert, son of the said William F. the elder, and Henrie, son of Henrie Fur-
neuxe of Ashburton. Residuary legatee and executor William Furneuxe, his eldest
son. Henrie Furneuxe overseer. Desires to be buried at Paignton beside his late
wife. Inventory £42 : 13 : 4. ":
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...
I know that my William baptised in 1579 was a son of a Henry. But I'm not sure which of the above two Henry's he was a son of.
The older(?) Henry's wife Christian made her Will in Paignton dated the 6th of Jan 1603. Confusingly she names Henry "Furnace" as her son in-law:
Will of Christian Furnace of Paignton, dated 6 Jan., 1603, proved Feb. 3rd,
Consistory Court, Exeter. Son William Fost and his children Henerie, Sisley,
Catherine, also her son John Fost and his son William and other children. Her
daughter Johan Yenning and her children. Her son-in-law Henerie Furnace
and son Henerie Furnace. Witnesses William Furnace and others. Inventory
£44 : 13 : 4. :
https://archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02unse/miscellane...
The original burial image for Christian Furneaux in 1603 in Paignton states that she was a "Widow."
What I am trying to work out is if the Henry Furneaux of the will written in 1587/88 was actually a grandfather of my William Furneaux baptised in 1579.
But the only marriage I can find for Henry Furneaux before 1579 around Paignton is Henry Furneaux and Christian in 1565. And the older will of Henry does not mention William Furneaux.
The "Visitation of England and Wales Notes: Volume 6 1906: Pedigree of Furneaux, Vol 6. p 34": Shows the William baptised in 1579 to be the son of the Henry of the will dated 19th of September 1625. And this Henry's wife died before him:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2JY5M_pcdvQC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=John+Dolbeare+will+1642&source=bl&ots=fJmeaFH7Yy&sig=x84MlDKg22coJ0JPTastr3Vr9xw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZiIyK0O7bAhWjDMAKHYs4CsUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Dolbeare%20will%201642&f=false
It also shows William's brother as John. But I can't find a baptism for a "John, son of Henry Furneaux." Or a burial in Paignton before 1625 for a: "Wife of Henry Fernaux" either.
I apologise for waffling on here. If anyone has any information at all it would be gratefully accepted.
Thank you very much.
:) ;)
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Have you looked at the Guild of One Name Studies website, https://one-name.org/
There is a Furneaux one name study.
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Have you looked at the Guild of One Name Studies website, https://one-name.org/
There is a Furneaux one name study.
No, I haven't looked at that. Thank you.
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Hello There,
I have now been able to resolve which Henry was which, and who was the father of my William, with help from someone on "Ancestry", and looking through parish registers of Paignton at the Library:
My William born 1579 was the son of the Henry Fernaux the elder who made his Will in 1625.
Henry's wife, according to this Henry's will had died before him.
Her name was Cicely, and she was buried on the 25th of July 1614, in Paignton. There was a Cicely Furneaux buried in 1618 in Paignton, but that one was wife of a John, not Henry. This is on the "Devon Burials" image on Find My Past:
" Cicely w (Wife) of Henry Furneaux sen." Henry was named: "Henry Fernaux sen", because he had a son called Henry in 1584.
Henry Fernaux senior, was also a son of a Henry Fernaux. He is estimated to have been born in Paignton, possibly around 1550, or at least before the parish registers of Paignton began in 1559.
As I said previously, this Henry father of William married a Cicely at some point. I haven't been able to find a record of a marriage. But William was baptised 1579 in Paignton, so may have been before then.
The Henry Fernaux, possibly born 1550 was a son of a Henry Fernaux and a "Joan/ Johan."
This Joan/ Johan was buried on the 29th of August 1564 in Paignton:
From the original register on Find My Past (Devon Burials): “Joan W (wife of ) Henry Furneis (Furneaux).”
There was a Joan, wife of Henry who was buried 1568 in Paignton. But this must have been a different Henry. That is because in Henry's will he mentions: "Christian, his wife", as sole Executrix, and some of his children. Henry Fernaux married Christian (surname unknown), on the 19th of May 1565, in Paignton.
With Joan, Henry had these Children:
Henry and John were born before the registers began in 1559. There was possibly a Matthew in 1560. Robert was baptised in 1563.
He married Christian on the 19th of May 1565. With Christian he had:
Joan/ Johan - baptised the 19 of Apr 1566 in Paignton. This daughter was not actually baptised with a name. But from Henry's will dated 1587 he mentions: "my daughter Johan." Johan is also mentioned in Henry's widow's will dated 1603, as Christain's daughter: "my daughter Johan Yenning."
This Henry's year of birth has been estimated to have been around 1530. He was buried on the 16th of February 1587 in Paignton.
His widow Christian was buried in Paignton, on the 10th of January 1603. From "Devon Burials" on Find My Past:
"Christian Furnis, (Furneaux) Wid."
There are some trees on Ancestry that have the grandfather of the Henry born 1530, as Thomas Fernaux. This Thomas was a Vicar of Ashburton church, and he died in 1517 in Ashburton. The trees are based on a book written in 1933, by William Hamlyn, who researched these Furneaux's.
There is apparantely a Plaque in Ashburton church that states he was a Knight: "Sir Thomas Fernaux.":
"Notes from Hamlyn: The next records are at Ashburton, where, as several authorities suggest, a descendant of the Fenottery line may have gone, a probability enhanced by the Thomas of Ashburton being a Knight. There is a family legend that there was a Furneaux family at South Brent in 1515."
This Sir Thomas was apparantely Vicar from 1493-1517. He is listed in the Church Wardens accounts of Ashburton.
I put all of this up here because I thought it may have been of interest to some people. :)
Thank you very much. :) ;)
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Although, regarding "Sir Thomas Furneaux":
I have just found out that:
"The title of Sir was formerly given to Priests in holy orders who had taken their degrees.":
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xeheAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA10&lpg=PA10&dq=%22Sir%22+was+a+title+formerly+given+to+the+Clergy.&source=bl&ots=PpSL29VfrT&sig=Ce71H4ZYF0fnlJYthtCEwrYvMMc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjz67TWjvnbAhVHAcAKHaXfDvAQ6AEIUDAJ#v=onepage&q=%22Sir%22%20was%20a%20title%20formerly%20given%20to%20the%20Clergy.&f=false
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Hi RobinRedBreast,
I have just come upon your thread while searching. I realise your posts are just on 2 years old but hope you might still get this.
We are obviously very distantly related because William (b 1579) was also my 10x great-grandfather. I was very interested to read your discoveries and hope you don't mind if I add the dates you have listed to my tree.
Well done on untangling the 'who's who' of people with the same name!
I don't know where you are but I am in Australia so we Furneaux descendants have, no doubt, spread out across the world.
Regards,
Sandra
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Hi RobinRedBreast,
I have just come upon your thread while searching. I realise your posts are just on 2 years old but hope you might still get this.
We are obviously very distantly related because William (b 1579) was also my 10x great-grandfather. I was very interested to read your discoveries and hope you don't mind if I add the dates you have listed to my tree.
Well done on untangling the 'who's who' of people with the same name!
I don't know where you are but I am in Australia so we Furneaux descendants have, no doubt, spread out across the world.
Regards,
Sandra
Hello there,
No I don't mind at all! :)
I have had a lot of help on Ancestry.co.uk from a distant relative who also has these same people in their tree. ;)
I'm sure you have heard of the English Navigator and Royal Navy Officer Tobias Furneaux ( 1735 - 1781). His biography is here on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Furneaux
The great grandfather of Tobias was John Furneaux (1626 - 1690).
John was a brother of my 9x great grandfather Christopher Furneaux (1634 - 1701).
He was a son of Christopher Furneaux (1600 - 1641), and his wife Sybil Dolbeare (baptised 23rd of January 1604 at Ashburton).
Christopher senior was baptised at Paignton on the 24th of January. "Devon Baptisms" on find my past use the old style date of 1600, which I have used in my tree. This visitation here showing him in the Pedigree of Furneaux's uses the new style date of 1601. It also states that he was a Vicar, went to Oxford University, and his father in-law John Dolbeare was also a Vicar:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2JY5M_pcdvQC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=John+Dolbeare+will+1642&source=bl&ots=fJmeaFH7Yy&sig=x84MlDKg22coJ0JPTastr3Vr9xw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZiIyK0O7bAhWjDMAKHYs4CsUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Dolbeare%20will%201642&f=false
Christopher junior married Mary "Maria" Chaffe, at Buckfastleigh in Devon on the 13th of May 1656.
Sybil Furneaux daughter of Christopher junior is my most recent Furneaux ancestor. She was baptised in 1678 at Buckfastleigh.
From there my surnames go through Honeywell, Martin, and then Ash to connect up with my father's and my surname of Ebdon. Blanche Ash (1873 - 1954), was a 4x great granddaughter of Sybil Furneaux. She married Edward Thomas Ebdon in 1897 at Camberwell.
I live in England, near Lincoln.
Thank you. :) ;)
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Thanks :)
My line also descends from Christopher and Mary (nee Chaffe). Their son, Samuel (married Elizabeth Honniwell) - then their son Samuel (married Ann Colton) - then their daughter Margaret who married Nicholas GIDLEY in 1756.
I haven't heard of Tobias Furneaux but will now have a read of the Wikipedia entry you sent.
Thanks again
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Thanks :)
My line also descends from Christopher and Mary (nee Chaffe). Their son, Samuel (married Elizabeth Honniwell) - then their son Samuel (married Ann Colton) - then their daughter Margaret who married Nicholas GIDLEY in 1756.
I haven't heard of Tobias Furneaux but will now have a read of the Wikipedia entry you sent.
Thanks again
Hello There,
There may POSSIBLY be a "double link" to the Furneaux's via the Honey/Honniwell's:
My 8x great grandmother Sybil Furneaux (b.1678), married Daniel Honeywell at Buckfastleigh, on the 30th of May 1699. So there may at least be a possibility that Elizabeth and Daniel were siblings.
I have Daniel's father in my tree as being baptised in 1639 at Buckfastleigh.
I came across a 1698 Census here of Buckfastleigh.
In section F140, it shows Christopher Furneaux and Mary (nee Chaffe), his wife and family. Christopher and Mary's ages have been rounded up to 70 in that Census, or at least transcribed as that. "Sibell" is listed as age 21. Her age is correct and this was a year before she married Daniel Honeywell junior. Sybil was Christopher and Mary's youngest daughter. They had children baptised in Buckfastleigh between 1656 - 1678. Christopher Furneaux was baptised in 1634 at Buckfastleigh. Mary "Maria" Chaffe was baptised a year later there. They married at Buckfastleigh on the 13th of May 1656. So Mary, Sybil's mother would have been around 43 when Sybil was born.
In that same section of the 1698 census, Samuel Furneaux, and Elizabeth his wife are listed. There is also an Elizabeth Furneaux age 2.
Now I'm not entirely sure who Daniel Honeywell's mother was. But I have his father Daniel, as being baptised on the 20th of April 1639 in Buckfastleigh.
Also on the left hand side of the F140 1698 census of Buckfastleigh, near the bottom is:
"Daniell Hunnywell (put down as age 54), Joane his wife (52), and Daniell Hunnywell (age 20)."
I am fairly confident that the Daniel "Hunnywell" listed as age 20, was the same Daniel who was baptised on the 1st of April 1677 in Buckfastleigh, who married Sybil Furneaux there in 1699. The father's name of Daniel was listed in the baptism register. But no mother's name was put down. Now it could be that "Joane" was Daniel Honeywell senior's second wife, but I am not sure.
In relation to Daniel Honeywell senior's age on the 1698 census transcription has been put down as being aged 54. However, his real age may actually have been 59 at this time. There appears to be no baptism for a Daniel Honeywell for around 1644, and only one in Buckfastleigh for 1639.
Here is the 1698 Census of Buckfastleigh. There are also more Furneaux's on there than I previously mentioned:
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/Buckfastleigh/Buckfastleigh1698
From a database search result via Find My Past: "Daniel Honeywell Sen" was buried in 1714 at Buckfastleigh.
Just as a side note:
Christopher Furneaux who married Mary "Maria" Chaffe in 1656, had a sister named Edith Furneaux, who was baptised on the 27th of February 1638 at Buckfastleigh.
In the same year that Christoper married Mary Chaffe, and also at Buckfastleigh (I don't know the actual date because it isn't given on the source transcriptions I have seen), Edith Furneaux was married to Mary Chaffe's brother Peter (who was baptised 1629 in Buckfastleigh). I don't want to confuse things even more than I probably already have done, haha! But I thought I might mention this just for interest. :D
Thank you. :) ;)
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I'm going to jump in here and announce that William Furneis (1579 Paignton) and his wife Joane Chadder are also my great x10 grandparents! My most recent Furneaux ancestor is Caroline Furneaux (great x3 grandmother) daughter of Christopher Furneaux and Mary Clement, bapt. 1820 in Buckfastleigh, married William Waycott 1843 and died 1863.
I haven't looked at that branch of my tree for a while, but much of my information came from an extensive tree, possibly on the old Rootsweb. www.furneaux-family.com no longer exists, though it may survive on the Wayback Machine. That gave William's parents as Henry Furneys, buried in Paignton 25 July 1626 and his wife Cicely, buried in Paignton 25 Jul 1614. The burial records are on FindMyPast, and Cicely is described as w(ife) of Henry Ffurneis Sen. I haven't yet found a marriage for Henry and Cicely, but I've got lots of free time now to hunt for it. Looking forward to more correspondence on this family, there must be a lot of descendants around!
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I'm going to jump in here and announce that William Furneis (1579 Paignton) and his wife Joane Chadder are also my great x10 grandparents! My most recent Furneaux ancestor is Caroline Furneaux (great x3 grandmother) daughter of Christopher Furneaux and Mary Clement, bapt. 1820 in Buckfastleigh, married William Waycott 1843 and died 1863.
I haven't looked at that branch of my tree for a while, but much of my information came from an extensive tree, possibly on the old Rootsweb. www.furneaux-family.com no longer exists, though it may survive on the Wayback Machine. That gave William's parents as Henry Furneys, buried in Paignton 25 July 1626 and his wife Cicely, buried in Paignton 25 Jul 1614. The burial records are on FindMyPast, and Cicely is described as w(ife) of Henry Ffurneis Sen. I haven't yet found a marriage for Henry and Cicely, but I've got lots of free time now to hunt for it. Looking forward to more correspondence on this family, there must be a lot of descendants around!
Regarding Cicely the burial date of 1614 I think is correct. I couldn't find a marriage for her and Henry Furneaux either. But it was probably before 1579;
This is because Henry Furneaux "the elder" of Paignton made his will there on the 19th of September 1625. And in that will he made William his "eldest son" executor.
He also mentioned his son John, and John's son also called John. In relation to our William, Henry's oldest son baptised 1579 in Paignton he mentioned William's two sons:
James and Robert. James "Furneis" was baptised on the 14th of December 1619 at Paignton. Robert mentioned in the will was baptised in 1622 and buried at Paignton on the 30th of March 1631.
In the Will "Henry Furneaux of Ashburton" was also mentioned. Now I am not sure if this Henry was a son of Henry who made his will in 1626. But Henry did have a son named Henry, baptied on the 18th of March 1585 at Paignton. This was POSSIBLY the same Henry who married Dorothy Neeke at Paignton on the 23rd of November 1607. Henry Furneaux was also named overseer of his will.
He wished to be buried at Paignton next to his late wife.
I got the above information from Henry's will in 1626 here, from this book on page 193:
https://archive.org/details/miscellaneagenea02unse/page/192/mode/2up/search/Furneaux
Thank you. :) ;)
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Thank you for your response. Now it gets interesting! In my tree, copied as I say from the Furneaux family website, Henry and Cicely only have two sons, William 1579 and Henry 1584/5. William married Joane Chadder and had Henry, Christopher, William, Thomas, John and Peter. So So no son John; no James and Robert sons of William. They are however born later than the last son I had, Peter, so it is possible but why are the older six sons not mentioned in the will?
Henry married Dorothy Necke; they had Margery, William, Henry, Dorothy and Susan. Dorothy sen. died in 1619 a month after the birth of Susan. In 1623 Henry remarried Hellery Finch and they had another son called Henry.
I have previously confirmed the baptisms and burials in the Parish Registers on FindMyPast, but they are not indexed, just browseable images so I have not yet gone on to check for deaths or marriages of the children. Maybe that will shed some light, but at the moment we are no closer to deciding which Henry is which!
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For getting back before 1579, I was wondering what records you have looked at. If there are no wills or parish records before then, the next steps could be tax records, the lay subsidies of the 1520s and 1540s:
Devon lay subsidy rolls, 1524-7, T. L. Stoate
Devon lay subsidy rolls, 1543-5, T. L. Stoate
Another possibility:
The Devon muster roll for 1569 /
edited by A. J. Howard and T. L. Stoate
Also legal records:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/
https://uh.edu/waalt/index.php/Main_Page
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40_Indices.html
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Thank you for your response. Now it gets interesting! In my tree, copied as I say from the Furneaux family website, Henry and Cicely only have two sons, William 1579 and Henry 1584/5. William married Joane Chadder and had Henry, Christopher, William, Thomas, John and Peter. So So no son John; no James and Robert sons of William. They are however born later than the last son I had, Peter, so it is possible but why are the older six sons not mentioned in the will?
I was wandering after I looked into this, why the older six children of William were not mentioned in their grandfather Henry's will also.
What I will say is that from the book it is only an abstract of a will, and not the original will itself.
In 99 percent of the wills I have viewed, the testator does though mention all of their grandchildren.
And this throws up some queries I have about William Furneaux's wife Joan/ Joane Chadder:
She was married to William Furneaux at Paignton on the 31st of July 1598.
Now there are quite a few trees on Ancestry.co.uk who have her being baptised at Paignton in 1567/1568, the daughter of a George.
Now if this same lady was the mother of their youngest child Robert, baptised at Paignton in 1622, that would make her 54 years old when he was baptised.
I notice that there is a six year gap between the baptism of Peter Furneaux baptised in 1613, and James, son of William baptised in 1619.
If Jane Chadder was indeed baptised around 1568 this would make her 45 when Peter was baptised. Which IF that is the correct woman for the wife of William Furneaux, I think would be much more likely indeed. Yes, it is a bit of a mystery I'm afraid. :-\
Henry Furneaux married Dorothy Necke/Neeke at Paignton in 1607. On the 26th of October 1619 in Paignton we have this burial, from the original register on Find My Past. I have put a question mark after "jun" because I'm not sure if it does say that. But I think it does:
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https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record/browse?id=gbprs%2fdev%2f007270962%2f00254
What I can definitely confirm about William Furneaux baptised 1579 in Paignton is this:
He outlived his son Christopher:
Christopher Furneaux (bap. 24 Jan 1600 in Paignton), was a reverend of Buckfastleigh. He married Sybil Dolbeare on the 5th of September 1625 at Buckfastleigh. He was a Schoolmaster there, and ordained to the Priesthood in 1628.
Christopher's father in-law John Dolbeare was also Vicar of Buckfastleigh. John was born in Ashburton, Devon around 1579. He was listed as being age 19, when he matriculated at Exeter College, Oxford on the 5th of May 1598. He gained a Bachelor of Arts from Oxford, on the 11th of February 1602. His only child "Sibly" (Sybil), was baptised in 1604 at Ashburton.
Christopher Furneaux and Sybil had these children all baptised in Buckfastleigh between 1626 - 1638:
John, William, Henry, Samuel, Mary, Joan, Christopher, Sybil, Richard, Edith.
Christopher Furneaux was buried in Totnes on the 7th of July 1641.
The following is from Find My Past:
The front of the Buckfastleigh parish register (in Latin) states that he was buried on the 7th of July 1641 in Totnes. From the original image of Buckfastleigh Parish register, near the front of the book on Find My Past, and also recorded in "Genealogical Et Heredita": Furneaux: "July 7 1641 Christopherus Furneaux, Clerus sepult fuit in Ecclia Toton." This is the only burial recorded in Totnes on that date. Here is a link to this original image. -
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS/DEV/BUR/742403
Christopher's burial was also recorded in Totnes. But in the Totnes register they put his name down mistakenly as Henry:
From the original register in Totnes: (July 1641): "The 7th was buried Mr Henry Furnace, minister of gods words." That burial date is also recorded on his Oxford University record.
Somebody who is a 9x great grandson of Christopher Furneaux noticed this mistaken burial entry at Totnes. But they did not know that his burial was also recorded in the Buckfastleigh register:
https://someolddevonchurches.wordpress.com/2017/12/10/the-parish-and-priory-church-of-st-mary-totnes/
Anyway, Christopher died. His father in-law John Dolbeare then made his Will at Buckfastleigh, on the 2nd of June 1642. In the will he mentioned among others his only child, his daughter Sybil Dolbeare, and Sybil's ten children born from Christopher Furneaux deceased.
William Furneaux (father of Christopher) who was born in 1579 was named as an overseer of John's will. He nominated "William Furneaux of Payngton (Paignton) grandfather to mine executor" to be an Overseer of the will, alongside Peter Cliffe, brother of his wife Mary. His grandson John Furneaux (baptised in 1626) was named as executor. All of his grandchildren were under the age of 21 years.
For anyone who has access to Ancestry, John Dolbeare's Will can be viewed here:
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/5111/40611_310652-00364/983964?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/108837364/person/422014990060/facts
John gave a lot of money for this time to his granddaughters, and land and chattels to his grandsons. He appears to have been relatively wealthy for the times.
Sorry for waffling on, but I thought this may be of interest to some people.
Thank you. :) ;)
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For getting back before 1579, I was wondering what records you have looked at. If there are no wills or parish records before then, the next steps could be tax records, the lay subsidies of the 1520s and 1540s:
Devon lay subsidy rolls, 1524-7, T. L. Stoate
Devon lay subsidy rolls, 1543-5, T. L. Stoate
Another possibility:
The Devon muster roll for 1569 /
edited by A. J. Howard and T. L. Stoate
Also legal records:
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/
https://uh.edu/waalt/index.php/Main_Page
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40_Indices.html
Thank you very much.
Are there any Devon Muster Rolls online for Paignton/Buckfastleigh for 1569 please? :)
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Thank you,
This has given me a lot to digest and work through.
After years or research and finding small bits and pieces, it is quite overwhelming to come upon so much information all at once.
Thanks again.
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I can only see what they have on Goggle Books, but both Paignton and Buckfastleigh are included.
https://books.google.fi/books?id=1f4cAAAAYAAJ&num=11
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Thank you,
This has given me a lot to digest and work through.
After years or research and finding small bits and pieces, it is quite overwhelming to come upon so much information all at once.
Thanks again.
Much obliged. :) ;)
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I can only see what they have on Goggle Books, but both Paignton and Buckfastleigh are included.
https://books.google.fi/books?id=1f4cAAAAYAAJ&num=11
Thank you. :) ;)
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How exciting to have discovered this chat as I too have an ancestor Moses Crossman who married a Elizabeth Furneaux 30 January 1728.
I am needing help (or confirmation) as I cannot find any birth records for her that are definitely her( was she born 1695 or 1698 or 1706?) - I believe her father was Samuel Furneaux married to a Elizabeth Honeywell.
I would love it if someone could assist.
Many thanks
Jill C :)
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I have an Elizabeth Furneaux, daughter of Samuel Furneaux and Elizabeth Honniwell, who was baptised in Buckfastleigh 23 Dec 1695. However, I have her married to Philip Michelmore 31 Mar 1719 in Buckfastleigh. I may be wrong, and there are a few Elizabeth F*s to choose from!
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Hi
Thanks for your comment - it seems one group of family trees have her married as you have and another group have an Elizabeth married to my Moses Crossman but all I have is that they were married in Ippelden Devon 30 January 1728. I know there are, I think, at least 3 or 4 Elizabeths at around the right time but living in Australia I cannot visit local Devon archives. I just dont want to assume which Elizabeth I am looking at so appreciate any help :)
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Hi
I've yet to pick through all the messages here. I am looking for Richard Furneaux ( more than one generation of) & Ann daughter of Richard, 1620s-1690s, and maybe an Elizabeth. More than one generation marrying/ being born Furneaux in Buckfastleigh and earlier in Paignton.
Wanted to say to Robin Redbreast - Christian Furneaux * second wife, 'son in law' as in beaufils in french, can be for 'STEP' son as well as 'husband of' daughter. I suspect 'in law' used in both those senses in late middle ages/ early modern times.
And I can see I will return to this thread. Have found similar discrepancies on Ancestry trees.
Have now spotted a Richard, son of Sybil in Buckfastly, mentioned in thread.
Thank you for info.
Michele ( Ann Furneaux , my 8x great grandmother c. 1663 by guesswork, Paignton )
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Wow brilliant I am currently working on this line on my tree rev Christopher furneaux was my 10th great grandfather