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Looking for any info on CARRIE VICTORIA LUTZ b Philadelphia US 1871(she was in the Arts & Crafts) m about 1890, had a child MARY GLADYS OR GLADYS MARY WEBB b US 1891
Any help on either would be good. Many thanks.
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Was Lutz her married or maiden name, and who did she marry?
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Is this Carrie and daughter in 1900 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M349-SPZ
Monica
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Looks like Joseph Webb passed away 29 December 1905 - perhaps Carrie remarried ???
FIND A GRAVE
5 March 1853 - 29 December 1905
Woodlands CemeteryPhiladelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/137551616
Sandra
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The 1900 census shows Joseph Webb with his brother Henry Fitzroy Webb - the age wasn't distinguishable
Joseph Webb 48 Henry F Webb
Carrie V Webb 28 Gladys Webb 8
but according to the passenger list immigration record he was born 1854 and aged 40 years on immigration - 19 October 1894 - Britannic.
Henry must have returned to the UK - there is a probate record - passed away 17 January 1939 - probate 14 March to Joseph Henry Londen - Civil Servant - Effects £7 1s 10d
Perhaps this was the birth of Carrie/Caroline in September 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBT4-F45
Sandra
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Background on the Webb brothers/family..............glass manufacturers
http://theantiquarian.us/Hist.%20Joseph%20Webb.htm
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m8z/
COUDERSPORT GLASS STILL FOUND TODAY
With an abundance of natural gas and rich sandstone and water resources, Coudersport seemed a natural location for glass manufacturing. Two members of the famous Webb family from England, brothers Joseph and H. Fitzroy Webb, opened a glass tile factory in the Mill Creek valley, just east of the business district in an area now referred to as Center Park.
Webb Patent Tile Company began production in late 1900. The factory had a separate division, the Joseph Webb Decorative Glass Company.......................
http://www.pottercountypa.net/post.php?pid=34
Sandra
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Daughter Gladys seems to be a boarder in Los Angeles in 1910 -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVLW-8SB
The New Jersey Marriage Index shows a marriage of Gladys Webb to Edward McCurdy in 1913 -
Sandra
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1920 census Union Avenue Clementon, Camden, New Jersey.
Edward Mccurdy 46 Gladys Mccurdy 26
Edward Mccurdy 6 Nancy Mccurdy 3
Margaret Mccune 23
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M45Q-GLJ
1930 census Haddonfield, Camden, New Jersey.
Edward C Mccurdy 57
Gladys V Mccurdy 37
Edward S Mccurdy 16
Nancy V Mccurdy 14
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4DM-PCP
1940 census Powelton Avenue Philadelphia PA - birthplace incorrect.
Edward Mc Curdy 67
Gladye Mc Curdy 50
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQZG-VWT
WW1 Draft - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZJ8-QVY
Sandra
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Florida Death Index. Edward Collins McCurdy - passed away 1947 Miami Dade Florida.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VVFZ-3KG
Sandra
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Florida Death Index -Gladys W McCurdy - 29 September 1892 - passed away 18 February 1977 Dade, Florida.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VV8G-4TL
Sandra
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Son Edward S McCurdy - 1930 Evergreen Lane Haddonfield, Camden, New Jersey.
Edward C Mccurdy 57 Gladys V Mccurdy 37
Edward S Mccurdy 16 Nancy V Mccurdy 14
Edward McCurdy 4 April 1914 Pittsburgh PA passed away 14 February 1988 -
Father Edward C McCurdy and Mother Gladys V Webb.
Last Residence 32778 Tavares, Lake, Florida.
Florida Death Index - Edward Sigmund Mccurdy - 4 April 1914 - 14 Feb 1988
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VVW1-F32
Sandra
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Nancy - daughter of Edward and Gladys - 1940 census
Morman (Norman) F Swenson 26
Nancy Swenson born PA. 24
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQZ2-WV3
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Nancy Swenson - 19 November 1915 - 1983
Greenwood Cemetery Cedar Run, Ocean County, New Jersey.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60581217
Last residence - Manahawkin, 08050, Ocean, New Jersey.
Norman Francis Swenson - 1913 - 1983
Last residence - Manahawkin, 08050, Ocean, New Jersey.
Sandra
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Obit - Nancy V Swenson - Asbury Park Press (Asbury Park, New Jersey)
17 Feb 1983, Thu - Main Edition - Page 21
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/7440805/asbury_park_press/?xid=637
Sandra
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Obit - Norman Francis Swenson - Asbury Park Press
(Asbury Park, New Jersey)
11 Aug 1983, Thu - Main Edition - Page 21
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/7440820/asbury_park_press/?xid=637
Sandra
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Norman F Swenson Jnr - son of Nancy and Norman - 3 October 1941 passed away 1 August 2002
Last Residence 08008 Beach Haven, Ocean, New Jersey.
Baptised - All Saints Episcopal Church - Philadelphia PA.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Norman F Swenson Jnr -
Saint Marys Cemetery Manahawkin, Ocean County, New Jersey.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92519052
Sandra
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Wow, Sandra. Well done getting all that info together. I tried earlier to find Carrie (also Caroline?) Victoria with family in 1880 but failed!
Monica
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I have found one Caroline Lutz but not sure if she is correct or not
1880 census St John Street Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
John Lutz 36 cabinet maker Lenna Lutz 37
Catharin Lutz 11 Frederick Lutz 9
Caroline Lutz 7 Charles Lutz 5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWJZ-GN8
Sandra
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Death of Lize Lutz 21 November 1879 - parents John and Lina Lutz (parents as on 1880 census)- John Street Philadelphia.
Burial - Glenwood Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6SL-Y62
Sandra
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I did see that one. The thing that put me off is Carrie's 1900 census entry when it shows her father as being from Penn and her mother from England :-\
Monica
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Wouldn't be unusual for a census to quote the wrong info thou. ??? Just making a note of two Lutz families - parents John and Leena/Lina who appear to live in the same area.
the 1870 census shows another John and Lina Lutz with two children Henry and Mary . John is a wheel wright so his occupation differs from that of John Lutz (cabinet maker) on the 1880 census (above) and those two children don't appear with the Lutz family at John Street Philadelphia.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ5L-22Y
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTJ7-JQM?i=834&cc=1438024
Mary May Lutz an 18 year old single girl passed away 16 June 1888 - address was 712 East Thompson Street Philadelphia. An announcement of her passing in the Times - Philadelphia Pennsylvania - Tuesday, June 19, 1888
0n 18th, Mary May Lutz, daughter of John and the late Lina Lutz. In the 19th year of her age. Funeral from 712 East Thompson street, today at 1.
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/52219278/
The family search entry shows burial Glenwood Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DC37-WCT?i=96&cc=1320976
Strangely there is a death record for a Lina Lutz born Germany 29 December 1900 and that gives 240 E Thompson Street. Ward 18. Philadelphia as the address.
Burial Glenwood Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SDW-WC5?i=707&cc=1320976
Sadly it might be difficult to get information from the cemetery - the cemetery no longer exists - cemetery was incorporated in 1851, and the final interment was made in 1921. In 1938, the remains were removed to Glenwood Memorial Gardens, Bloomall, Delaware County, PA.
Sandra
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Brill work Sandra, thanks for your time, also Monical, still would like to know more about Carrie (Caroline) found her parents Jacob D b 1848 & Annie E b 1852 both of Philadelphia
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Still not found the death of Carrie Victoria Webb b Sept 1871, also the death of her daughter Mary Gladys McCurdy b Sept 1891 may have died 1975 or 1977 in Florida
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Florida Death Index -Gladys W McCurdy - 29 September 1892 - passed away 18 February 1977 Dade, Florida.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VV8G-4TL
Sandra
Reply 9. - The reply above was Gladys passing away in 1977
This was the marriage-
The Wheeling Intelligencer
Wheeling, West Virginia
Sat, 26 Apr 1913
Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-wheeling-intelligencer/168949977/
Sandra
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US
Gladys McCurdy - Birth Date 29 Sep 1891 - February 1977
Last Residence 33142, Miami, Miami-Dade, Florida
Last Benefit 08050, Manahawkin, Ocean, New Jersey
Sandra
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The Potter Enterprise
Coudersport, Pennsylvania
Thu, 15 Feb 1906
Page 4
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-potter-enterprise/168958766/
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Sun, 14 Jun 1908
Page 29
https://www.newspapers.com/article/pittsburgh-post-gazette/168958915/
Sandra
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It looks like Caroline/Carolyn/Carrie Lutz/Webb remarried 6 June 1908 Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania to Sigmund Huber
Name Sigmund V Huber -Spouse's Name Carolyn Verle Webb
Event Type Marriage 6 Jun 1908
Event Place Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2X9-54W?lang=en
Sandra
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California Death Index.
Carolyn V Huber - Birth Year abt 1871 - Death Date 18 Jun 1909
Age at Death 38 Death Place Los Angeles, California
Obit :-
The Los Angeles Times
Los Angeles, California
Sat, 19 Jun 1909
Page 12
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times/168967186/
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Carolyn Verle Huber
Angelus Rosedale Cemetery
Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
Plot Section: J, Lot: 256, Grave: 1NW
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75152908/carolyn-verle-huber
Sandra
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Gladys the daughter on the 1910 census Olive Street Los Angeles. (District 75, Los Angeles, California.)
Single/Lodger/18 years old with the Summers family.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVLW-8SB?lang=en
Sandra
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Once again Sandra brill work, many thanks for your time
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Pleased we found Carrie in the end. :)
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Did you get my PM re Linda Mason