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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Sinann on Sunday 10 June 18 09:50 BST (UK)
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I only noticed this yesterday.
My trace elements are being dropped
I started off with
Ireland, Scotland, Wales 76%
Great Britain 19%
Iberian 2%
Finland/North West Russia 2%
European Jewish 1%
some in the family were very pleased to see the Finland/North West Russia as we have cases of Dupuytren's Disease in the family
but now they are changing me to
Ireland /Scotland 98%
England / Wales 2%
I know as such it doesn't make any difference and I don't care one way or the other but it was handy to say 'Oh yes that's our Finnnish ancestors leaving their mark on my hand.' :D
BTW
https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/dupuytrens-disease/
Anyone else get updated?
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Yes,I noticed mine had changed a few days ago,there is not much difference in mine
Just to say,once you open the "new" version it does not appear possible to go back to the old one,so make a copy before "clicking" :)
Kim
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I'm still the same as last month:
Ireland/Scotland/Wales
64%
Europe West
15%
Scandinavia
14%
Great Britain
5%
Wales & the West Midlands
Northern England & the Midlands
Low Confidence Regions
Europe South
<1%
Finland/Northwest Russia
<1%
Added - My Heritage, FTDNA and Gedmatch have different proportions. It's all pinch of salt ;D
Gadget
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Do you have the low confidence category?
I always thought that the slight contracture of my left little finger was from my Norse genes ;D
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I know as such it doesn't make any difference and I don't care one way or the other but it was handy to say 'Oh yes that's our Finnnish ancestors leaving their mark on my hand.' :D
BTW
https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/dupuytrens-disease/
Anyone else get updated?
Of course it is also widespread in some Mediterranean countries so it could be say your Spanish or Bosnian ancestors that left their mark on your hand ;)
Its useful that the companies update these ethnicity guesses as then the penny drops with people that they are not worth the money they paid for them but of cause the diehard devotees will still swear by their "accuracy" ::)
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This thread prompted me to look, so thank you for that.
I started as
56% Great Britain
31% Europe West
13% Ireland/Scotland/Wales
although I never understood what was meant by Great Britain if Ireland, Scotland and Wales were a separate category ???
Now, apparently, I'm
97% England/Wales
3% Sweden
Yikes!
STG
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Do you have the low confidence category?
I always thought that the slight contracture of my left little finger was from my Norse genes ;D
I don't have it, my father had and my brother has it even worse, in both cases they were told it was Scandavian in origin. These things are always up for debate.
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Yes,I noticed mine had changed a few days ago,there is not much difference in mine
Just to say,once you open the "new" version it does not appear possible to go back to the old one,so make a copy before "clicking" :)
Kim
I was able to change it back yesterday but think I forgot when I checked it today. It did say it would change permanently at some stage so I took an image snip of it.
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I'm back to 90% E&W 7% Ire & Scot and 3% Norway as I spotted for a day last month
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=794025.0
It appears I might have been a guinea pig.
Surely the key thing is that they say they have increased the number of reference samples from 3,000 to 16,000? Whatever that means.
The fact that MyHeritage has me at 53% Scandinavian (with the Ancestry data) just shows what a scam/bit of fun these ethnicity estimates are.
Back to the real stuff with the matches .....
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Wonder what changes would appear if one put the new Ancestry estimates through FTDNA/MyHeritage and Gedmatch again ???
Kim
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Mine haven't changed, but FTDNA are wildly different from Ancestry:
Ancestry
Great Britain 55%
Scandinavia 20%
Scotland 13%
Low Confidence
Iberian 5%
West Europe 4%
Finland 3%
While FTDNA have
British 93%
South East Europe 2% (Map shows Balkans)
Traces from Finland and Asia Minor
Surprised by the 20% Scandinavian in Ancestry, must be because my mother's from the North East / Scotland, but it is very different to the FTDNA, which looks much more like the paper trail!
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My AncestryDNA results haven't changed either, but they do say 'Great Britain' rather than 'England/Wales', so maybe an update is imminent!
At the moment my ethnicity estimates are:
61% European West (33%-84%)
25% Ireland/Scotland/Wales (10%-38%)
10% Great Britain (0%-29%)
4% Scandanavia (0%-13%)
As the majority of my ancestors are from England (with a few from Ireland) an update might make mine more in line with the paper tree!
My Grandad's (Entirely English by paper records - although some family did live in Wales, but seem to originate from England)
48% Europe West (18%-77%)
25% Great Britain (0%-56%)
23% Ireland/Scotland/Wales (6%-38%)
2% Scandanavia (0%-8%)
<1% Iberian Peninsula (0%-3%)
<1% Asia Central (0%-1%)
I look forward to see how this updates! ;D
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Kimbrey are you saying that AncestryDNA Company has altered its processing and filtering of your 700,000 marker measurements has been recently changed (which would give different data for uploading to other sites)?
The general belief is that the Company has now larger population samples to obtain improved definition of the world's so-called "ethnic groupings". This company is now advertising they have twice as many world ethnic groups (over 300) than any other consumer DNA testing company.
Of course, the company may have made changes to both - can anyone comment please?
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Yes, I was just wondering if the changes made to their method of "estimating" would have any effect were one to download the newer version to other sites which one has already downloaded to-if they have just adjusted the estimates to the increased database size probably not !
Kim
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Wonder what changes would appear if one put the new Ancestry estimates through FTDNA/MyHeritage and Gedmatch again ???
Kim
I'm not sure that it works like that. Your DNA doesn't change, so other sites would still get the same data . It's just that their DNA source database, which is used to calculate your ethnicity, has expanded and thus can produce a more accurate estimate.
As has been said on many other threads, ethnicity estimates are very approximate; often used to encourage people to buy the kit. Often at the pinch of salt level. It's best to use your paper trail.
Gadget