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Title: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: June Connell on Wednesday 30 May 18 07:19 BST (UK)
Hello all

 My dads  Dad Michael Connell was Married in Manchester Cathedral in the  mid to late 1800s to some one Tattersall.
My grandfather was Thomas Richard Connell and his son, my dad Percival William Connell.

If anyone has any info it would be appreciated Thanks
June Connell
Victoria Aus
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 30 May 18 07:25 BST (UK)
Hi June,
Can you just clarify please.

You say first your  "dads  Dad Michael Connell "

And then you say

My grandfather was Thomas Richard Connell

But is not your father's father your grandfather?

Is it perhaps one of these men was your grandfather, and the other your great grand father?

Sue
 
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 30 May 18 08:26 BST (UK)
Do you have any dates of birth, and places of birth?

Looking at FreeBMD.org.uk (GRO Birth, Marriage & Death Indexes) I can only find:

December qtr 1870
Birmingham Registration District     vol 6d, page 101
Connell, Thomas Richard

Can't see a birth for a Percival at all?
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:01 BST (UK)
In Victoria, Australia.

The obituary in the Herald Sun Newspaper for Percival William CONNELL is dated 2003.
He was born 1921 and this is confirmed by his ww2 enlistment summary.
His next of kin at that time was Isabel.
His father is registered on Victorian Electoral rolls as Thomas Richard CONNELL and he lives with Annie Isabel CONNELL.

When Thomas Richard CONNELL died his mother was listed as Marjory FAIRCLOUGH

Thomas Richard CONNELL
Age   47
Father Wm CONNELL
Mother Marjory FAICLOUGH
Registration 4777

She died in 1894 in Vic

Marjory CONNELL
Age43
Father FAIRCLOUGH Rich
Mother's Marjory
Registration Year:   1894
Registration Place:   Victoria
Registration Number:   10273

Birth of Thomas

Thos Richd CONNELL
Birth Place   Carlton, Victoria
Year   1889
Father Wm CONNELL
Mother Margery FAIRCLOUGH
Registration  19646

 
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:05 BST (UK)
So, I see no-one named TATTERSALL, or perhaps I am on the wrong track.

Here is the English marriage.

Marriages Mar 1873   
 
CONNELLWilliam       
FAIRCLOUGH Margery        
Barton On Irwell
 8c   667

Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:08 BST (UK)
Aha!!
Here is the marriage you are seeking.
You had confused the generations ;D


Marriages Dec 1845   

FAIRCLOUGH  Richard     
TATTERSALL  Margery
Manchester  20/ 527     

These are the parents of Marjory FAIRCLOUGH
 
Sue
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:09 BST (UK)
So, I see no-one named TATTERSALL, or perhaps I am on the wrong track.

Here is the English marriage.

Marriages Mar 1873   
 
CONNELLWilliam       
FAIRCLOUGH Margery        
Barton On Irwell
 8c   667






From lancashireOPC
24 Feb 1873 at St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire
William Connell of full age, Plasterer, Bachelor, abode 15 Buxton Street, Eccles
Margery Fairclough of full age, Spinster, abode15 Burton Street, Eccles
Groom's Father Michael Connell, occ Plasterer
Bride's Father : Richard Fairclough, occ Brickmaker
Witnesses Joseph Edwards & Margaret Edwards
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:14 BST (UK)
Births of potential children of William and Margery:

CONNELL, SARAH  ELLEN      (Mother's Maiden Name:) FAIRCLOUGH      
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 142

CONNELL, WALTER        FAIRCLOUGH      
GRO Reference: 1875  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 131

CONNELL, WILLIAM        FAIRCLOUGH      
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 129

CONNELL, LILLY        FAIRCLOUGH      
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 147

Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:19 BST (UK)
This looks like the family then

1881 3976/24/7
40 Higson Street Manchester

William Connell   30 yrs Plaisterer b Stockport
Margaret Connell 31 yrs b Manchester
Sarah Ellen Connell 8yrs
Walter Connell 5 yrs

KGarrad,
She is Margaret and that is the spelling re occupation  ;)


Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:49 BST (UK)
RG09 / 2882 f19 p40 - Chorlton upon Medlock
Michael Connall age 30 occ plasterer bn Ireland
Sarah 28 bn Carlisle
William 12 bn Stockport
Joseph 9 bn Manchester
Richard 6 bn Manchester
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:54 BST (UK)
Births Jun 1850
Connell    William    mmn Mason
Stockport    19   380

Possible marriage  :-\
Mar qtr 1849   
Connell    Michael       
Mason    Sarah       
Manchester    20   483

also Richard  :-\
CONNELL, RICHARD       mmn MASON     
GRO Reference: 1856  June Quarter in CHORLTON 
Volume 08C  Page 587   
 
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 May 18 09:59 BST (UK)
Marriage was at the Cathedral 26 March 1849
Michael occ Plasterer father William occ Plasterer
Sarahs father was William Mason occ Hatter
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: June Connell on Wednesday 30 May 18 11:10 BST (UK)
Thank you eveyone.. lol  rather than confusing the generations I acturally did not know  the generations except my dad  Percival William Connell and his dad  Richard THomas, .

I am so excited to see the names of past family i never knew existed, their marriages and even deaths (except my dads)..

My cousin has done some research and says there  Thomas Richard's Father, William Connell was the only one of his family who came  to Aus.... That was my Great grandfather That means I have family in Uk. Fantastic. .

This  is a fantastic site...... thanks so much everyone........ I am blown away by all this information.
kindest regards June Connell
Title: Re: great grandfather Michael Connell M a Tattersall
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 31 May 18 09:22 BST (UK)
This is the death notice for William CONNELL. It may be of help to you as you continue your research in Australia, but perhaps you already have it.

CONNELL - On the 4th March, passed peacefully away, William, relict of the late Marjory Connell and loving father of Sara (Mrs Warren) Walter, Lily (Mrs Graham), William, Thomas and Charles, aged 69 years. At rest.

 The Age.  Fri 5 Mar 1920

Death from Victorian Index.

CONNELL, Wm
Father CONNELL, Wm
Mother Unknown
At Melb. East
1920
Reg 2645

Bear in mind, informants for death certifications, were frequently wrong in the information they gave.
In this case it seems the father's name was confused.

Other information about the family is available, but you can let us know your needs when ready perhaps.
Sue