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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: kathleenmitchell on Tuesday 29 May 18 14:42 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I have notice that on one of my ancestors birth cert the following
1858 Birth
Mother - Rose Ann Mitchell MS Dowds, Bridewell Airdrie
Father - James Mitchell Coal Miner
Registered by Ann Mitchell, Aunt
I have a sneaking suspicion that Bridewell is either a Prison or a very poor area of town. I can trace Rose Ann and James after this, but I cannot find Ann Mitchell, Aunt anywhere.
I was trying to trace Ann as she is the only link I have with Rose Ann and James before they came to Scotland from Ireland around 1855
Thanks
Kathy
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What year was Ann Mitchell born was Mitchell her maiden name ?
Rosie
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The National Library of Scotland website has town maps for Airdrie, on the 1846 map there is a Bridewell Lane, by 1858 it had changed to Market Street, the prison was situated between Anderson Street and Market Street, the birth may have been in a house in Bridewell Lane and not in the prison.
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Hello,
The baby was also Rose Ann Mitchell, the same as her mothers whose maiden name was Dowds. The baby was registered by Ann Mitchell, Aunt and that is all I know about Ann Mitchell. This all happened in 1858 in Airdrie. Both the James Mitchell and the Rose Ann Dowds came from a Ireland in 1855, I am trying to work backwards and had hoped that I could with Ann Mitchell
Thanks
Kathy
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Have you not been able to find a death for James Mitchell to see if any parents are named assuming this Ann is his sister ?
Rosie
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Hi Rosie,
I have James Mitchell’s Parents although it sometimes changes, I was hoping to back track through Ann or her husband depending who was the Mitchell to try and firm up James Mitchell’s Parents.
Parents are possibly Samuel Mitchell and Jane Elliott although they did not name any of their children Samuel, but there is a Jane.
Regards
Kathy
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I meant to add the both Samuel and Jane were both dead by 1855 when James and Roseann married.
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Who were the witnesses ? would I be correct in saying Rose ann in prison 1871/1881 Census
Had a quick look on the Electoral Rolls for Glasgow but not much luck ???...Be quite hard to find her not being sure if she was married to a Mitchell or if that was her maiden name ...
Rosie
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Wonder if this is her 1861 Census going by the address James and Rose Ann at 65 Bridgegate
Clyde Lanarkshire ...There is a Ann Mitchell lodging at 80 Bridgegate Clyde Lanarkshire
1861 Census
Bridget Carlan age 50 b Ireland ( firewood dealer )
Margaret Carlan age 15 Ireland (Rag Picker )
Anthony Carlan age 13 Ireland ( flesher )
John Carlan age 17 Ireland (flesher )
Ann Mitchell age 30 b Ireland ( boot binder )
Mary Mitchell age 9 b Perth
William Mitchell age 7 b Glasgow
Andrew Mitchell age 4 months b Glasgow
Rosie
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Looks like this family are in Dundee on the 1881 Census 75 South Tay Street you can view on Scotlands People LDS census free ..There was a Sarah Jane Mitchell born 14 April 1872 Dundee
Father James Mitchell
Mother Ann Diamond
Marriage for a James Mitchell to a Ann Diamond 29/11/1851 Perth..
Death for Ann Mitchell other name Diamond 1889 on SP
Might be worth checking out although the husband James does not seem to be with her on census forms
Rosie
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Goodness me...Rose Ann Dowds sound a bit of a minx ::)
She had numerous court appearance from 1867 to 1901 at least. I haven't got full access/subs to www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk but if you do an 'exact phrase' search of 'Rose Ann Dowds' you will find at least 14 references to her comings and goings....enough text in the clips to give you an idea.
Monica :)
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Have you come across this before, Kathy http://ianhaddenfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2014/01/52-ancestors-rosannah-dowds.html ?
Not making headway so far on James Mitchell :-\
Monica
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Hi,
Yes RoseAnn got 7years in Perth for stealing a shirt and some boots if my mind serves me right, she was certainly a right one. I cannot understand if Ann married a James Mitchell, because Roseann’s husband is James Mitchell, unless uncle and nephew are close in ages.
Thanks for all your help, it’s going to cost me a bomb on Scotland’s people again 😬😬
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Hi Monica,
Yes I have, have you ever had your tree copied and pasted 😉
Thanks
Kathy x
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It’s bang my head on the brick wall again time,
I have just looked up the marriage of James and Ann, Beautiful scroll writing, it even tells you who Ann’s father was and where she was from (Londonderry) but is says nothing about who James’s parents were or where he was from aaarrrggghhh
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A bit of a mystery trying to find this Ann Mitchell ??? just thought there might have been some connection with them both being in the same area in 1861 ..Just a pity we can't find anything on Ann's husband James Mitchell to see if he is related to the other James ..
Rosie
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The National Library of Scotland website has town maps for Airdrie, on the 1846 map there is a Bridewell Lane, by 1858 it had changed to Market Street, the prison was situated between Anderson Street and Market Street, the birth may have been in a house in Bridewell Lane and not in the prison.
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