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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: cpercival on Sunday 27 May 18 14:31 BST (UK)
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I am doing some research on behalf of an old friend and have run into a brick wall with Peter Tullock. The 1851 census shows a family headed by Peter Tullock, wife Mary (nee Taylor) and children William, James, Edward and George. All resident in Hartley, Northumberland. William is the key member in the line I am following. Mary was born in Newcastle, all the children in Seaton Sluice, Northumberland and Peter was born in Scotland, occupation Mariner. So far so good. Not one of the members of this family appears in the census of 1841 in England. Edward and George were too young but William and James should be there as should their mother, even if Peter was away at sea.
Peter was born in or about 1803 and Mary about 1807. I have found birth records of two possible Marys. I can find no record of a Scottish birth of a Peter or a record of a marriage between the two. The 1841 census for Scotland shows only one Peter Tullock, resident in Orkney and Shetland, a fisherman, but he has another family altogether. By 1861 Mary was the lone head of the household and Edward the only remaining child, George having died in 1854 and the eldest two presumably left home. Any suggestions as to the next line of enquiry would be very welcome.
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Not one of the members of this family appears in the census of 1841 in England. Edward and George were too young but William and James should be there as should their mother, even if Peter was away at sea.
This looks like the right family in Seaton Sluice in 1841
HO 107 / 820 / 17/ 9 / 10
Mary Tullock, 35, Y
Thomas do, 10, Y
William do, 10, Y
Taylor do, 4, Y
James do, 1, Y
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Agree that this is the likely family in 1841.
Gro index birth for James Tullock suggests that mother's maiden name was Taylor.
William
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Peter Tullock sounds like an anglicised spelling of Peter Tulloch, of whom there are nearly 800 who were born in Scotland between 1802 and 1804 according to FamilySearch
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Taylor baptised at Earsdon 1st July 1837, Parents Peter and Mary Tullock. Abode Seaton Sluice, father's occupation seaman (freeReg)
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I can find no record of a Scottish birth of a Peter or a record of a marriage between the two.
Peter Tullock married Mary Taylor 12 November 1826 at Earsdon (freeReg) Witnesses William Taylor & Hannah Taylor.
Bishops Transcripts http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m4o/
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Taylor baptised at Earsdon 1st July 1837, Parents Peter and Mary Tullock. Abode Seaton Sluice, father's occupation seaman (freeReg)
Taylor was a merchant seaman which probably accounts for his absence from the 1851 census.
He married an Ann Buglass in December 1859.
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Thank you all for your input, info and advice. I guess with almost 800 candidates to choose from I will not get back any further on Peter Tullock (h). Nevertheless I have something to go on in the case of Mary Taylor and the children.
best regards
C
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additional children of Peter and Mary Tulloch/Tullock
Baptized Earsdon
John 19 January 1828
Thomas 31 December 1830
William 31 December 1830 notes state twin son
Ann Elizabeth 12 October 1833 buried 22 August 1837 age 4
Mary 12 November 1836 buried 22 July 1837 age 2
Taylor 1 July 1837
James 12 December 1840
Mary Elizabeth 5 February 1842 (possibly buried as Elizabeth 17 January 1843 age 1)
1851 census
Edward age5
George aged 9 months registered Tynemouth
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Many thanks amondg for the additional information. I notice that Mary was buried at the age of 2 only 8 months after her baptism. Is it not unusual for the time that baptism took place so long after birth?
C
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I guess with almost 800 candidates to choose from I will not get back any further on Peter Tullock (h).
A possible lead :-\
In the British Merchant Seamens Records 1835 - 1857 is a Peter Tullock. His age at the start of the record is 33, so he was born c. 1802. His place of birth is given as Larwick (Lerwick)
The reason I think this might just possibly be your man is that several of his voyages were made in a ship called the Astley. Astley was the family name of the Delavals of Seaton Delaval, a mile or so inland from Seaton Sluice, and they were major landowners in the area. A ship called the Astley was apparently launched at Seaton Sluice in February 1826 (Durham County Advertiser), and there are records of it in the newspapers throughout the 1830's, its home port being Seaton Sluice
The final voyage in the record is dated October 1839 on the Lady Combermere and below this is, I am pretty sure, is written S. Sluice. There are quite a few references in the newspapers to the Lady Combermere sailing to various destinations and its port of origin is given as Seaton Sluice.
So - I think there's a possibility this could be him :-\ If so - you have a possible place of origin.
There is the death of a Peter Tullock aged 50 in Gravesend in the 4th quarter of 1853. Given that the ships he served on were colliers engaged in mainly coastal trade, there is a vague possibility that this might be him?
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There is the death of a Peter Tullock aged 50 in Gravesend in the 4th quarter of 1853. Given that the ships he served on were colliers engaged in mainly coastal trade, there is a vague possibility that this might be him?
I think this might very well be him. He was buried 22nd November 1853, and his abode on the transcription is given as as 'Ship William Warkworth'. This could mean that the ship was called William Warkworth or more likely the 'William' of Warkworth.
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There are two possibles in ScotlandPeople for Peter Tulloch born on Shetland between 1800 and 1803 (discounting a third one who remained there all his life and died in 1896).
Peter Tulloch b.1800 at Lerwick to Alexr Tulloch/Ann Loggie
Peter Tulloch b.1801 at Bressay, Burra & Quarff to John Tulloch
If your Peter followed the Scottish naming convention, however, my bet would be on the son of John Tulloch given that his brothers are also called John, Thomas and William, just like his sons.
Ian
EDIT: I should have added that Bressay etc is only 4 miles from Lerwick by ferry.
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Have U checked Tony Gott's superb Shetland website?
www.bayanne.info/shetland
Skoosh.
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Thanks to all for the help and suggestions. The Shetland website has been very helpful and I am now certain that our man is Peter Tulloch born 1803 in Bressay. Son of James Tulloch (1757-1820). No mother mentioned but in between James' marriages to Grace Anderson and Catherine Linklater. The giveaway for me is that whereas other family trees on this website show marriages and children and extended families, Peter was born, only the father mentioned, and no other relationships. We have no way of knowing why. Clearly he grew up and went away to sea, having nothing ever to go back for.
C
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"Peter was born, only the father mentioned, and no other relationships."
That's even more remarkable than Jesus !
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Shetland suffered badly in the famine of the 1840's, it took many years to recover.
Skoosh.
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This is an old post but I wonder if you got any further with this? I’m a direct descendent of Peter Tulloch & my mother has been researching this line for some time. She did get help from the FH Society from Shetland also who helped her to locate the said Peter as son of John Tulloch actually & his mother was Lucy White & it looks like they didn’t marry. His likely DoB is 1801. Would love to know if you have found out anything else yourself. I am soon to visit Shetland to do some hands on research if at all possible.
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Welcome to Rootschat.
This is the entry on scotlandspeople;
TULLOCH PETER
JOHN TULLOCH/
31/05/1801
001/10 72 Bressay, Burra and Quarf
I hope your visit is before Oct as the weather can be fierce causing travel cancellations?
Annie
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Thank you... yes that is the Peter Tulloch my Mother has traced & as I said with help from the Shetland folk who used to come down to Tyneside regularly. They did some checking of church records for her & located him specifically to Bressay, where his father was connected to the church. As he was born out of wedlock, his mother was presented to the church council & reprimanded in some way. His father did look after him however & give him his name. The name Tulloch as someone commented was Anglicised in Northumberland to Tullock & indeed my Granny was Tullock. She was born in 1912.
Yes I’m going to Shetland for Wool Week at the end of this month & will be prepared for the weather!!