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Title: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: jenner68 on Sunday 13 May 18 01:32 BST (UK)
Hi, I am researching my 2nd Great Grandfather Charles Auld who married Lillias Baird. I believe his parents were Andrew Auld & Susan Brown who at this moment I know nothing about. According to the census Charles says he was born in Riccarton or Kilmarnock. I am trying to find out who his Brothers & Sisters were.

I also do not appear to be able to find Andrew Auld & Sarah Brown in the census and wonder if she died and Andrew remarried.

I would be really grateful if someone would be able to help me out. Thank you Richard 
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 13 May 18 02:09 BST (UK)
Charles Auld married Lillias Baird.

Can you tell us where/when Charles & Lillias married with their abodes, ages, witnesses & occupation please?

I'm assuming his parents names were given on his marriage?

What was his father's occ. & were his parents still living?

Did it give his mother's married name & maiden surname?

Annie
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 13 May 18 02:48 BST (UK)
A possible for Charles' mother from freecen?

Piece: SCT1841/596 Place: Kilbirnie -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 11
Civil Parish: Kilbirnie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kilbirnie
Folio: 11 Page: 1

(1841)           
BROWN Susan 11 Linen Thread Twister Outside Census County         
    
I only typed in Susan Brown & Ayrshire which brough up a lot of names (including many Browns) in this establishment, no address given i.e. a look at the original should give more info?

Annie    

Add...I see you have Susan & Sarah i.e. which is she?
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 13 May 18 02:56 BST (UK)
From freecen,

Piece: SCT1841/597 Place: Kilmarnock -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 26
Civil Parish: Kilmarnock Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kilmarnock
Folio: 0 Page: 8
Address: Robertson Place

10 Aulds in this house including...

Andrew 17   Hand Loom Weaver Ayrshire with a father named Charles!

Annie
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: jenner68 on Sunday 13 May 18 03:05 BST (UK)
Hi, Charles Auld & Lillias Baird married 13th or 30th day of Dec 1870 in Kilmarnock, Charles was 20 years old and was a Plumber living in East Shaw Street. Andrew Auld looks like his proffession is venetian weaver and Susan Auld (it looks like the maiden name is Brown) Underneath that it says dead. Lillias was a mill worker, lived at West Netherton street, Parents are Andrew Baird (tailor) & Margaret Baird nee Evans. That also says dead underneath. I think the witnesses are Robert Auld and James Barronan. The scan is difficult to read. I hope this helps

Cheers Richard
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 13 May 18 03:16 BST (UK)
Piece: SCT1851/597 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 20
Civil Parish: Kilmarnock Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kilmarnock
Folio: 0 Page: 46 Schedule: 207
Address: West Netherton

AULD

Not sure where Andrew was but at home were;

Charles (Cotton Weaver) & Ann (parents who were on 1841
Margaret (dau) 16
Allan (Son) 14

This looks as though there's a good chance of them being connected?

Annie
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: ev on Sunday 13 May 18 08:32 BST (UK)
An Andrew Auld married Catherine Welsh in 1849 Kilmarnock.

Charles Auld is noted as 35 on the 1881 Census , wonder if this is the family in 1851 and Andrew has a second wife ?
21 East Shaw St. , Kilmarnock , Ayrshire(all born Kilmarnock).
Andrew Auld 33 block printer
Catherine Auld 23 wife
Sarah Auld 7 dau.
Charles Auld 5 son
Robert Auld 1 son
(FreeCEN)

Andrew Auld / Susan Brown marriage , 2nd Feb. 1844 Kilmarnock Ayr.


ev
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: ev on Sunday 13 May 18 09:15 BST (UK)
Possible death for Catherine Welsh/Auld , age 25 , 1855 Kilmarnock Ayr.

Possible ?
Andrew Auld marries again to Marion(or Mary) Humphrey 1859 Kilmarnock Ayr.
The 1861 Census , Kilmarnock , Ayr(597/ 22/2) -
Andrew Auld 40
Marion Auld 29
Sarah Auld 16
Charles Auld 14
Robert Auld 10


ev
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: jenner68 on Monday 14 May 18 10:18 BST (UK)
Hello, It does look like Andrew Auld married three times by the same people being together in the census at different times. I am finding it difficult though to find the births.  I have been looking on ScotlandsPeople for the births but not had much luck as yet. Were births registered the same way as in England?. I am finding it fascinating. I really appreciate everybody's help. Cheers Richard
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 14 May 18 12:09 BST (UK)
Andrew Auld died 1/7/1900 Kilmarnock aged 82 (?).  Certificate shows he was a widower and had been married 3 times, first to a Susan Brown - this confirms things already mentioned on this thread.  His parents shown as Charles Auld, Handloom Weaver (dec'd) and Mary nee Hill (deceased).  Informant was son William Auld.

Think his mothers name given as 'Mary' should in fact be Ann (as shown in census) - Charles Auld married Ann Hill 16/10/1813 Kilmarnock (Ayr).

For whatever reason cannot find baptisms for any of their numerous children.

Annette
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: Annette7 on Monday 14 May 18 12:32 BST (UK)
Charles Auld senior died 21/5/1870 - his parents given as John Auld and Susan nee Reid.

Charles and his siblings were baptised in Irvine, Ayr with Charles as Charles Crookshanks Auld in 1794.

Annette
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: ev on Monday 14 May 18 14:03 BST (UK)
Looks like there were 2 children from the 3rd marriage -
Amelia Auld , born 23rd March 1860 , Kilmarnock Ayr
Andrew Auld , born 22nd Oct. 1861 , Kilmarnock Ayr
Parents Andrew Auld and Mary Ann Humphrey.

I did wonder why Amelia wasn't on the 1861 Census but it could be that she's on the next page -
1861 Amelia Auld , age 1 , Kilmarnock Ayr(597/ 22/3).


ev
Title: Re: Lookup Request - Charles Auld born abt 1850 Riccarton or Kilmarnock
Post by: jenner68 on Thursday 17 May 18 12:55 BST (UK)
Hello,

According to the marriage record of Andrew Auld and Susan Brown of 2nd Feb 1844 in Kilmarnock Susan Brown was at Bentinck Street. I am trying to find her now in the 1841 census. Thank you