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Title: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 07 April 18 16:44 BST (UK)
William Caulfield of Ballymoghan House died Mar 1, 1876. His wife was Nancy, surname unknown. they would have married about 1840-1844. I have his death record but of course that doesn't give the names of his children. Would there be a newspaper article or obit that might give further info about William? I know for sure he had a daughter Matilda who married William Mitchell and a daughter Rosanna who married William Streahorn. Suspect there was also a John who married Rachel Mitchell, a William Robert who married Annie Mary Porter and a Margaret Jane who married William George Lennox.
Thanks for any help.
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 April 18 16:59 BST (UK)
FYI

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=610133.0
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 April 18 17:09 BST (UK)
You have his death record.... so why not look for Births etc at same District Office??

Just go to https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

and put in    Surname and whatever DISTRICT OFFICE it was registered at.
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 07 April 18 17:14 BST (UK)
All of the children of William Robert Caulfield and Nancy would be born between 1841 and abt 1860 so before what they have on irishgenealogy.ie.  I have looked, believe me. All the info I have has led me to reconstruct this family with the named children but I thought perhaps an obit or something would further confirm my info.
thanks
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 April 18 17:17 BST (UK)
All of the children of William Robert Caulfield and Nancy would be born between 1841 and abt 1860 so before what they have on irishgenealogy.ie.  I have looked, believe me. All the info I have has led me to reconstruct this family with the named children but I thought perhaps an obit or something would further confirm my info.
thanks
Peggy

I understand..... thought looking through Marriages might find children.

Otherwise, maybe a gravestone?
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 07 April 18 17:20 BST (UK)
You suspect there was also a John who married Rachel Mitchell, a William Robert who married Annie Mary Porter and a Margaret Jane who married William George Lennox...


Have you found these Marriages? 
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 07 April 18 23:29 BST (UK)
I have found the marriages and the father is William. But is it for sure this William? I rather think so but like to be sure.
Thanks
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: familyroutes on Thursday 12 April 18 18:41 BST (UK)
Possible clues:
Did you notice that Matilda and John both had an Alexander Morrow as a witness?
Matilda and Margaret Jane were married in the same place...Woods Chapel.

Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 13 April 18 04:29 BST (UK)
I did not know that. That is good information linking them together.
Thank you.
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: scotmum on Friday 13 April 18 08:16 BST (UK)
His death notice (basic details), was in the 4th March edition of the Belfast Weekly News, but no obvious obit.

Brief mentions of Ballymughan/Ballymoghan House associated with Caulfields in later years though, such as a Robert Caulfield in 1916 and a William Caulfield in 1928 etc.
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Friday 13 April 18 08:43 BST (UK)
You could email Anne?

https://www.ireland.com/accommodation/bed-and-breakfast/destinations/northern-ireland/county-londonderry/magherafelt/all/2-66380/
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: scotmum on Friday 13 April 18 08:51 BST (UK)
When a widowed Nancy Caulfield of Lisnamorrow, aged 93, died in 1903, her death was registered by her 'niece', Margaret Jane Caulfield of Ballymoghan.

There was a Margaret Jane Caulfield born at Ballymoghan in 1881 to a Robert Caulfield and Annie Mary Porter.

If this Nancy was William's widow and if this Margaret Jane was the one who registered the death (and certainly, there was a Margaret Jane at Ballymoghan in 1901, with parents Robert and Annie http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ballymoghan/Ballymoghan__Beg_/1531985/ ), given that you believe Robert was potentially a son of William and Nancy, then Margaret would have been a granddaughter rather than a niece. I suppose it could, however, have potentially been a different Margaret Jane or, simply, her relationship was described incorrectly.

Nancy at Lisnamorrow in 1901, with daughter Rose Anna:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Ballyronan/Lisnamorrow/1532394/
so it would seem, based on your earlier mention of Rose Anna, that it was William's widow.
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Friday 13 April 18 11:31 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone.  Yes, Margaret Jane’s relationship was probably described incorrectly. I did have the children of Robert and Annie Mary Porter and saw her birth. So I am thinking it is correct that Robert was a son of William. And Rose Anna a daughter although her age is in question. Either that or Nancy’s age in question. Thanks again
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: hallmark on Friday 13 April 18 11:45 BST (UK)
You could email Anne?

https://www.ireland.com/accommodation/bed-and-breakfast/destinations/northern-ireland/county-londonderry/magherafelt/all/2-66380/
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 14 April 18 02:50 BST (UK)
Thanks hallmark. Great idea..
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Thursday 26 April 18 20:12 BST (UK)
I have emailed Anne Caulfield of Ballymoghan House but no  reply as yet.
Peggy
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Saturday 19 May 18 21:09 BST (UK)
Still no answer from Ann Caulfield of Ballymoghan House although she is definitely related.
Title: Re: Death William Robert Caulfield, Mar 1, 1876, Ballymoghan House
Post by: Peggy13 on Wednesday 13 March 19 22:20 GMT (UK)
Just an update. I did stay at Ballymoghan House with Anne Caulfield in October last year. She is a wonderful  person and it was a wonderful stay. However,  the family has not done much genealogy. I am DNA related to her husband Thomas Caulfield whose mother was a Johnston, as was mine. Unfortunately, I didn't get any further with William and Nancy Caulfield, but haven't totally given up as yet. Can't remember if I asked for an obit  for their daughter Roseanna Streahorn who died Aug 22, 1927. If she had one of those lengthy obits that I have found for some other people, it might list tons of relatives and really help me out. Or her brother Robert who died Oct 29, 1930 in Magherafelt. Or her brother-in-law William Mitchell who died Nov 16, 1916 in Drumlamph.
Peggy