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I have been researching Jacob Miller and his wife Jane (nee Anderson) of Northumberland.
Since finding the Millers' grave at Earsdon, I am now trying to find out more on other people who are named on their gravestone. This is a duplicate post but I have decided to put this as a look up as this may increase my chances of more people seeing this specific request for help. See:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787396.msg6471128
This is the inscription:
SACRED
TO THE MEMORY OF
MICHAEL MILLER
NEW YORK
THE BELOVED HUSBAND OF ISABELLA MILLER
WHO DIED JUNE 10TH 1873 AGED 37 YEARS
HERE RESTS A HUSBAND WHO WAS KIND
AND OF A TENDER LOVING MIND
HE LIVED A LIFE OF FAITHFUL LOVE
IN HOPE TO DWELL IN HEAVEN ABOVE
SARAH THE NIECE OF THE ABOVE MICHAEL
AND DAUGHTER OF JACOB AND JANE MILLER
WHO DIED FEB 10th? 1874
AGED 16 YEARS
THE ABOVE JANE DIED FEB 27 1895
AGED 63 YEARS
THE ABOVE JACOB MILLER DIED JAN 23 1900 AGED ? YEARS
ISABELLA CAMPBELL
BELOVED WIFE OF JOHN CAMPBELL OF NEW YORK
DIED DEC 26 1907 AGED 62 YEARS
I know who Jacob, Jane and Sarah are.
I do believe Michael would have been Jacob's younger brother. However, does anyone know anything concerning the Isabella who was his wife? Also, does anyone have any idea who the mentioned John and Isabella Campbell may have been? I do think because they are mentioned on the grave stone they will be relations.
The information on the burial register records that Isabella Campbell's home address was Harbottle's Buildings, New York.
Her Evening Chronicle death (Friday, December 27, 1907) notice doesn't seem to yield any clues and she had no memoriam notice the year after death:
'CAMPBELL.- At New York, on the 26th, aged 62 years, Isabella, beloved wife of John Campbell, hawker. Interment at Earsdon on Sunday 29th at 3 pm. Friends please accept this intimation.'
I believe I have found John and Isabella in Annitsford, in a caravan in 1891.
I would really appreciate hearing from you if you may know more. Thank you.
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You've probably already seen this but this could be Michael and Isabella in 1861?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7VF-D8R
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and in 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BF-QMC
Boo
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Thanks Boo! I haven't come the first one but I have come across the second one.
I don't have my records to hand right now but I wonder if the little girl might be a daughter of Jacob? Or another brother, perhaps, such as George? I will have to check this out. I wonder if Michael married in Morpeth or whether he may have gone to Lamberton like Jacob for a runaway marriage?
Thank you for your help- much appreciated. :)
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This is a duplicate post but I have decided to put this as a look up as this may increase my chances of more people seeing this specific request for help.
Can I suggest you also put a link to this thread on your other one, otherwise you might get people unknowingly doing duplicate look-ups :)
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I have now done this. :)
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A 'possible' newspaper report about John and Isabella Campbell:
Morpeth Herald 4th June 1892
Assaults at Felton
John Campbell, hawker, Morpeth, and Isabella Campbell, his wife, were charged with assaulting Anthony Hutchinson, at Felton, on May 4th. A cross-summons was taken out against Anthony Hutchinson charging him with assaulting John and Isabella Campbell, at the same time and place. — Mr Webb appeared to prosecute. — The defendants, Campbell, did not appear. — Anthony Hutchinson said he was driving home on the day in question, and saw some dogs ranging in a plantation. He got out, and saw the dog carrying a rabbit, and the defendant , John Campbell, whistled off the dog, and said he might never mind as the dog was bringing a rabbit. John Campbell then got hold of him and knocked him down, and then assaulted him severely. When he got up the woman poked a stick in his eye and made it bleed. He never did anything to either of the Campbells. The Bench fined each of the Campbells 20s and costs. The cross-summons was dismissed.
Boo
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Wow! Thanks for this Boo!
My gut feeling is that these will be the Campbell's who I am trying to research. He was a hawker according to Isabella's death notice too.
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For Isabella Miller married to Michael I wonder if she could be Isabella nee Anderson. 1851 Census in Morpeth shows that Jane Anderson (who married Jacob Miller) has a sister Isabella matching the b. year 1842 and born at Morpeth.
No Isabella Anderson b. 1842 Morpeth in 1861 census., implying she might’ve married.
Beggars Lane
Alexander Anderson, 47, b. Bilton, tinsmith
Isabella Anderson, wife, 45, b. Rothbury
Jane Anderson, dau, 19, b. Morpeth, dealer
Jacob Anderson, son, 15, b. Morpeth
Eleanor Anderson, dau, 13, b. Rothbury
Mary Anderson, dau, 11, b. Morpeth
Isabella Anderson, dau, 9, b. Morpeth
Martha Anderson, dau, 3, b. Morpeth
Jane and Isabella were the daughters of Alexander Anderson and Isabella Campbell (who died in 1883)
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Thanks for this Mulberry Rose .. so it would seem like two sisters married the two brothers! :)
You are very good at sussing things out so I will ask if you can ever work out who the Andersons/Allens were who were charged in the Matfen Murder trial along with my Great x 2 Grandparents, please let me know.
They were Isabella 'Tibby' Anderson, her son Michael Allen and her two daughters Jane and Eleanor Anderson.
I did find Newcastle marriage for what may have been the daughter Eleanor but as I recall I think she was going by the name of Ellen.
Father's name was given as Michael Allen.
I think Tibby herselfwas unmarried.
My Grt x 2 Grandfather James said they were 'acquaintances'.
These Conroy/Miller/Campbell/Anderson families seem as though they are all interconnected with each other is various ways so I have wondered if Tibby was related to Jane who married Jacob. I would have to check it out again but I think there was an early census where possibly this Jane was with Tibby and her family.
No pressure to check anything out but if you do ever discover if Tibby was connected to Jane Anderson's family and not just some random Anderson who turned up - I would be very interested to hear about it. :)
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River Tyne Lass
Yes I think there is an 1841 census in Newgate Street Morpeth where Jane is with Tibby and all of her children. I do think they’re connected too but there’s a lot of gaps.
Ellen Allen as you probably know may have married a John Morrison in 1857. They had a son Robert in 1858 and lived in Byker. I think Ellen died in 1875 as Eleanor Morrison aged 36, Mar Qtr Volume 10b Page 89.
Tibby died as Isabella Allen aged 66, Sep Qtr 1866 at Morpeth, 10b Page 196
Her obituary has “on the 30th ult (30th June), aged 66, Isabella, widow of the late Michael Allan, tinsmith”. She was buried 3 July 1866 at Morpeth and her residence was the Poor House.
No clue for Jane Anderson then Best as of yet.
Tibby also had a daughter Sarah who sadly died as an infant.
Sarah Allan bap 1 Nov 1844 at Morpeth dau of Isabella Allan, spinster
Sarah Allan buried 17 Dec 1844 aged 7 weeks
There is a prison register for both Tibby Allan & Jane Best in 1860 at Newcastle for breaching the bylaws. Underneath Jane Best’s name it mentions the alias Allan in 1858. Under Tibby’s name it mentions she went by the alias Elizabeth (18 July 1859).
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Thanks so much for this Mulberry Rose, this is great that you have found out a bit more to the continuing story.
Yes, I was aware of the marriage to John Morrison of what may have been this Ellen. I looked the marriage up and I think I posted the details on here somewhere pre covid.
I did not know of the death year of Tibby though, I wonder if she was buried at St Mary the Virgin Morpeth as our mutual blood line ancestor Mary Conroy was? I know son Edward Conroy was buried there as well. Just as an aside I wonder if Edward’s brother and your ancestor Joseph Conroy was buried there, too? Or is his burial still unknown?
That is sad to hear that Tibby ended her days in the Poor house. What a hard life she must have had, seemingly bringing up a family on her own (partner Michael doesn’t seem to have been around much) and losing her son Michael for good when he was sent to Australia. That is sad too that she lost her daughter Sarah at such a young age.
I didn’t know that Tibby had an alias as an Elizabeth. I think I recall that she had an older daughter too and I think the daughter may have been called Elizabeth. I would have to recheck.
I wonder if Jane really did marry a Best or if she just pretended to be a married woman? I wonder if Jane had a sad end too, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Thanks again, I really appreciate all your help.
Added: This is what I found re Ellen Anderson’s marriage:
Ellen Allen marriage to John Morrison
22 August 1857, St Nicholas, Newcastle
She was recorded as 'a hawker' but then a line was crossed over these words.
Her father was recorded as Michael Allen - a hawker
Her husband John was a cartman and his Father Robert was also recorded as a cartman.
Their witnesses were William Watson and Isabella Kelly.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=784673.0
A direct descendant of Michael Allen – ‘Suryniji’ posted on this thread but sadly they have not been back on here since.
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Hi RTL,
I would think Tibby was buried at St Mary’s as it seems to be the ‘main’ burial place in Morpeth.
Sadly I’ve not found Joseph’s burial yet. Given he died at Scotland Gate I’m thinking he was buried either at Choppington, Netherton Lane/Westlea or maybe even Cowpen. I have a theory his wife Mary Ann Allen was buried as “Mary Caney” in Morpeth on 13 April 1886, as Mary Ann died on 10 April 1886. So maybe he was buried under the wrong name like her. Hopefully I should get up to the Woodhorn archives soon to have a proper look.
Tibby did have a very sad life didn’t she. :( I noticed she died not long before Michael was conditionally pardoned. She died of heart disease and dropsy, the informant was a Sarah Trotter of Union Workhouse. Have you ever found her in any census after the 1841 one? I’m still trying to find the charge that Tibby apparently got in July 1859 as Elizabeth Allan.
I think that Tibby & Jane must’ve lived in Newcastle in the late 1850s.
Thank you for the information about Ellen’s marriage. I noticed her son was named Robert but his birth was actually registered as the name John in 1858 (unless obviously it was two different sons, but I’ve not found any other Morrison births with Allen/Anderson MN in Newcastle).