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Hi I am hoping some one can help. I am looking for the Charles Henry Mares I know one of his kids was Frederick Mares born in Charles Devon in 1856. Frederick married married Ann Cater in 1880 in South Molten (Charles was deceased at the time of their marriage)their children were Alice Walter Mabel and John (1891 censor). So apart from knowing his fathers name I can not find out anything else about him, Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
Linda
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Welcome to Rootschat.
This looks like Frederick's birth, registered as Mars. No mother's maiden name given, which does sometime mean the child is illegitimate. Where did you get his father's name from - have you found them on the 1861 census? If the name came from the marriage certificate, you have to bear in mind that if a child was illegitimate they did sometime "invent" a father to go on the marriage certificate.
Births Dec 1857
MARS Frederick Henry
Barnstaple 5b 442
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The only one I can see in the vicinity is the same.
MARS, FREDERICK HENRY - 1857 D Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B Page 442
1861 census, his mother has wed.
(probably Jul-Aug-Sep 1860 Barnstaple, Devon, England
Volume 5B
Page 790
Line Number 16
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM3-ZGM
DAVEY, CHARITY BAMENT 1861 J Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B Page 496
DAVEY, JANE BALMENT 1862 S Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B Page 479
DAVEY, ANN THIRZA BALMENT 1864 S Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B P 483
DAVEY, GEORGE BALMENT 1865 S Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B Page 468
DAVEY, JOHN BALMENT 1869 D Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 05B Page 488
1871 (no Frederick)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5TY-72N
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Frederick & Annie had at least 2 other children - Charles born in 1893 (probably October) & Bessie, born on Christmas Day 1890 - who were baptised in South Molton parish on 23 October 1893.
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This is what I have found so far hoping its the right one
Father
Charles /Mars/
Mother
Mary /Bament/
NOTES (1)
BAPTISM
MARWOOD DEC 31 1857
FREDERIC,MARY MARS,MARWOOD
Name: Frederick Henry Mars
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Barnstaple
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 442
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I can't see any obvious source for that baptism ?
Any idea where it came from?
In the meantime:
Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)
BAMENT Mary Barnstaple 10 70
COTTLE John Barnstaple 10 70
DAVEY Jane Barnstaple 10 70
HARRIS John Barnstaple 10 70
Heale Sarah Barnstaple 10 70
JONES Joanna Barnstaple 10 70
MARS Charles Barnstaple 10 70
PARKHOUSE Isaac Farnton 10 70
PAW John Barnstaple 10 70
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Hi Pauline I found it on here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:38LJ-1QR
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Looks like a best guess rather than a verifiable baptism record.
Unless he was born in the early hours and they registered the birth that same day.
MARS, WALTER BALMENT 1843 J Quarter in BARNSTAPLE Volume 10 Page 38
MARS, JOHN BAMENT 1845 S Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 10 Page 332
MARS, ANN MARIA BALMENT 1848 D Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 10 Page 31
MARS, EMMA BALMENT 1851 J Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 10 Page 41
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1851 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJD-YK3
This might be John & Ann Maria (1851 young kids) in 1861 with grandparents
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM3-CGT
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The 1861 link posted by PaulineJ is not the right one.
Daughter Ann Maria aged 2 in 1851 is a servant as plain Ann in Marwood 1861 (12). as is son Walter (as Mires) also in Marwood.
Cannot see any obvious death for Charles Mars (variants) at all, nor any further trace of son John after 1851.
Mary Balmont (as written) bp.7/9/1823 Marwood, Devon dau. of George and Mary.
Annette
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Thanks for all your help,
This is what i have so far from my mothers list (sadly passed now so cannot ask her if they are for real)
great grandad Walter Mares- 1882 in charlestown devon married a sarah
great great grandad frederick mares 1856 in charles devon married Ann 1880
charles Mar aug 1814 married mary bament 1842 Barstable
william Mair marred Sarah 1774 marwood devon their kids walter charles ann maria and john according to the 1851 censor
I am just not so sure about the william
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Thanks for all your help,
This is what i have so far from my mothers list (sadly passed now so cannot ask her if they are for real)
great grandad Walter Mares- 1882 in charlestown devon married a sarah
great great grandad frederick mares 1856 in charles devon married Ann 1880
charles Mar aug 1814 married mary bament 1842 Barstable
william Mair marred Sarah 1774 marwood devon their kids walter charles ann maria and john according to the 1851 censor
I am just not so sure about the william
I doubt that any 1774 marriage would be producing kids 40 years later (ie Charles in 1814).
Human biology being what it is, so William & Sarah should not be Charles' parents
the 1851 census kids are the offspring of CHARLES B 1814 and MARY b 1823
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sorry should of been charles not william's offspring