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Title: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi
I am trying to find the maiden name of Eunice/Annis and her marriage to John Skidmore.  She appears on the 1871 and 1881 census' as Eunice or Annis born 1845 Stafford/Sedgely with various children. Her death record is in 1920 aged 75 and she appears on the 1911 census as born in Gornal and married for 45 years (1865ish) . There a marriage record for Eunice Cleulow on the GRO with John Skidmore and Benjamin Cox but other records show that that Eunice married Benjamin, can anyone help me please????
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: JJen on Monday 02 April 18 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi,

Have you looked for the children's birth record on GRO which should give their mother's maiden name?

JJ
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 15:56 BST (UK)
Is she in Barnsley area in 1881 with amongst others a daughter Laura and sons Thomas/William :-\

SKIDMORE, LAURA       mmn WARD     
1878  Sept Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION  Volume 09C  Page 216   

SKIDMORE, THOMAS       mmn WARD     
1876  March Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION  Volume 09C  Page 221   

SKIDMORE, WILLIAM       mmn WARD     
1874  June Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION  Volume 09C  Page 202   
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 15:59 BST (UK)
Eldest son showing in 1871  :-\

SKIDMORE, HARDEN       mmn WARD     
1866  June Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION  Volume 09C  Page 161   
 
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: Millmoor on Monday 02 April 18 16:04 BST (UK)


There is a birth for Eunice Ward in Dudley RD Oct - Dec 1844 mmn Gough - this ties up with an entry in the 1851 census parents James and Mary A living in Sedgeley, Staffs.

William
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: JJen on Monday 02 April 18 16:04 BST (UK)
This would appear to be Eunice on the 1851 -

James Ward   36
Mary A Ward   34
Emily Ward   12
Mary Ward   10
Clara Ward   8
Eunice Ward   6 b. Sedgley, Staffordshire
Laura Ward   4
John Ward   2
Hannah Gough   23
Thomas E Lane   1 Mo

HO107 Piece 2030 Folio 210 Page 7.

No marriage found yet  ???

JJ
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 16:05 BST (UK)
Fantastic, thank you yes that is them. Where on the GRO are you seeing the maiden names? 
I thought they were only available post 1911 but then I haven't done much family history over the past few years so I seem to be out of date with my sources.
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 16:07 BST (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Search here
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

You need to register unless you have previously ordered certificates from them.
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 16:13 BST (UK)
Yes I have previously but just for ordering certs, I didn't realise that it was searchable and had mmn's that's great thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 16:19 BST (UK)
It also has ages at death for earlier registrations.

They are currently running a trial for PDF copies for some birth & deaths for £6.  They are ideal for family history if you don't want them mounted on the certificate background and you download them rather than them coming snail mail.  This trial has run for quite a while, I suspect it may continue ....
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: JJen on Monday 02 April 18 16:20 BST (UK)
This may be way off the mark but worth looking at  :)

In 1861 Eunice Ward is a servant in the registration district of Rotherham.

There is a marriage of a John Skidmore -

q3 1865, Rotherham
Vol 9c Page 620
On the same page is an Emma Ward.

Wonder if details were mistranscribed and Emma should be Eunice - Just a thought.

JJ
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 16:24 BST (UK)
She is a servant in Rawmarsh in 1861 RG9/3508 f66 p1

I wonder if she married as Emma Ward  :-\
Marriages Sep qtr 1865
Skidmore    John       
Ward    Emma       
Rotherham    9c   620

The image is online, the signature looks like Eunice  ;D Married Wath on Dearne

Snap JJen
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: JJen on Monday 02 April 18 16:30 BST (UK)
Good to see we had the same thoughts Rosie  :)

Having looked at the image the bride's father's name is James with occupation Joiner, which matches the 1851 for Eunice Ward. Equally the signature of the bride does look like Eunice and not Emma.

JJ
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 16:31 BST (UK)
I saw that marriage but couldn't work out how you'd get Emma from Eunice, I even looked at the transcript on freeBMD but that is just a list of names. 
If she's in Rotherham as a servant and you can see her signature and it looks like Eunice that's great thank you!
The certificates as a PDF looks like a really good idea, it'll save money and come quicker!
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 16:32 BST (UK)
It took me a while as I went back to look at the certificate which I had previously discounted  ;D

Her signature

Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 16:37 BST (UK)
Wow, that so looks like Emma if you're not looking for Eunice.  I am sure it's Eunice especially if you compare the a in Ward to the supposed a of Emma they look nothing alike.

Thank you very much both of you
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 02 April 18 16:42 BST (UK)
The vicar has put Emma  ;D    Image is on findmypast
Title: Re: Eunice who?? Gornal/Sedgely Staffs 1845
Post by: madpants on Monday 02 April 18 16:56 BST (UK)
Thank you  ;D