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Hi. Can anybody help!!!
Looking for birth place and parents of Arthur William Smith who i am told was born 13/7/1898.
Also told he served in the Royal Welsh Fusiliers during WW1. He married Alice Edna Mapp , children were Arthur Ivy Olive and Rose. Arthur William Smith died in 1970. The family lived in Sale, Manchester. Thanks
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The marriage certificate should name his father
Marriage Dec qtr 1921
Mapp Alice E
Smith Arthur W
Bucklow 8a 324
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Where did he die in 1970 please? Have you found a death registration for him citing birthdate 13/7/1898?
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arthur william smith died in bucklow, i found this in civil death index 1970,
he married alice edna mapp in bucklow, i found this in the civil marriage index
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i am told the family lived in sale Manchester all their lives
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i am told the family lived in sale Manchester all their lives
If that is the case have you tried looking for them on census :-\
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I should have said they lived all their married life in Sale. alice edna was born in eye herefordshire, but so far i have not found arthur william.
the closest i have got is a arthur william born wrexham wales 1898 but the birth month does not tie up with his death. i tied in wrexham as this is the head quarters of the royal welsh fusiliers who he served with in ww1
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Sorry, but with a surname of Smith you really need that marriage certificate.
Freebmd shows 2 Arthur William Smith's whose births were registered in Sept qtr 1898
SMITH Arthur William Hartismere 4a 877
SMITH Arthur William Norwich 4b 114
and this one in the following quarter
SMITH Arthur William Hackney 1b 432
Birth dates are not always reliable, they were not so important to people in those times.
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The marriage is on Familysearch, St. George’s altrincham fathers Percy Smith and Albert Mapp
Mike
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One possibility from the 1911 index on Familysearch is the Arthur Smith living in wilmslow, father Percy smith, Arthur born county cork. ireland.
Only because he is in the right area :)
Mike
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Thank you Mike ;D
Possibly
RG13 /2660 f126 p13
Kate Smith 27 married bn Brewood, Staffordshire
Percy B Smith age 6 bn Chester
Harry Joseph Smith age 5 bn Ireland
Arthur W Smith age 2 bn Ireland
Ellen L Smith bn Brewood
Beatrice M Plant age 16 bn Brewood
Ellen Louisa Smiths birth reg on the GRO index gives mmn Stoker
SMITH, ELLEN LOUISA mmn STOKER
1900 Sept Quarter in CANNOCK Volume 06B Page 517
Marriage Dec qtr 1893
Smith Percy
Stoker Kate
Cannock 6b 773
Marriage for Kate & Percy from familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQC-3P8X
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WOW...THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT...THE ROOTSCHAT FAMILY ARE ALL VERY GENEROUS ON THE QUESTION ASKED...WELL DONE TO YOU ALL
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i have just found a arthur william smith in the ireland, civil registration births index
date of registration 1898 jul-aug-sept
registration district mallow
in the 1911 census arthur william smith is listed as being born in buttevant county cork which is just a short distant from mallow
can anybody find the actural birth date!!!!!!
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You would have to buy the birth certificate for the birth date. Have you looked for him on the 1939 register as that gives birth dates though they are not always accurate ???
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Arthur William Smith was my grandad and did live in Sale until 1970. He was born in Cork, Ireland to Percy and Kate (Catherine Stoker). My Mum was Olive and the fourth child of Alice and Arthur. I have done further family research with the help of a relative In Australia and between us have traced back the ancestry back to the 1790s. Arthur had a number of sibblings one of which was Percy Benjamin Smith who was killed in action in France in WW1 in 1918.