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Looking for my grandmothers parents and family's Ethel Bell and Harry or (Henry) Guthrie they married in Leeds, i believe Ethel had a younger sister Called Ada Bell, i'm not sure where harry (Henry) came from, or if they both remarried but it seems Ethel married a buckle and Died as Ethel Kelly in the 1980's.
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Hi Carl
No dates on your message, so here's some starters:
MARRIAGE June Qtr 1927, Leeds
Henry GUTHRIE
Ethel BELL
MARRIAGE Jun Qtr 1955, Leeds
Ethel GUTHRIE
George P BUCKLE
DEATH Mar Qtr 1971 Leeds
George Percival BUCKLE, dob 14 Dec 1906,
MARRIAGE Mar Qtr 1974 Leeds
Ethel BUCKLE
James KELLY
If she died in the 1980's, this is the one that may be her:
DEATH Mar Qtr 1981, Leeds
Ethel KELLY, dob 11 Mar 1906
BIRTH?
This looks like the GRO Index BIRTH, if the 1981 Death is your Ethel:
June Qtr 1906 Leeds - Ethel BELL, mms FARLEY
There is also these BELL girls with mms FARLEY, registered in Leeds:
Emily, Sep Qtr 1900
Hilda, Mar Qtr 1912
Could Hilda be the sister you believe is called 'Ada'?
You should also lookup Ethel on the 1939 Register, as it could be of interest re: who she's with and ages. If you are able to do that, post the details here - but we can't do any look-ups for you, du to rules of the site.
Cheers
AMBLY
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To check that you have the correct family, you need to buy a few certificates e.g. Henry/Harry's marriage certificate to get information on his age and father, for starters, if you want to know where he came from.
Free search of 1939 gives:
Ethel Kelly (Guthrie,Buckle) 1906
Added:
Free search of 1939 also confirms that 1906 birth date from the death found.
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Interesting that Ethel nee BELL was associated with all three names KELLY GUTHRIE and BUCKLE in 1939 !
This appears to be her background:
CENSUS 1891 in Pudsey, Yorkshire her parents Harry and Mary (next door to mother Mary's parents):
RG12 - Piece 3658 - Folio 34 - Pg 28
8 Walkingsons Blg
Head: John FARLEY 53, Labourer General, b Cawood YKS
Wife: Margaret FARLEY 51,b Sherburn, DUR
Son: Thomas FARLEY 12, b Sunderland, DUR
and
9 Walkingsons Blg
Head: Harry BELL 23, Labourer General, b Goole YKS
Wife: Mary BELL 21, b Selby YKS
Son: William H BELL 2, b Leeds YKS
Son: Ernest BELL 6 mths, b Pudsey
1901: At 23 Charley Street, Leeds
RG13 - Piece 4238/ Folio 118 /Pg 9
Head: Harry BELL 33, House Painter, b Goole
Wife: Mary BELL 32, b Cawood
Son: William H LEAN 12, b Leeds (sic) from Mary's first marriage
Son: Ernest BELL 10, 12, b Stanningley, YKS
Dau: Hannah BELL 8, 12, b Stanningley, YKS
Son: Harry BELL 5, b Stanningley, YKS
Dau: Emily 8 mths, b Leeds
CENSUS 1911: Free Index on Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWV3-Y4Z
Wife Mary (nee FARLEY) - Ethel's mother - was married and widowed before marrying Harry BELL, as young as she was…
MARRIAGE Dec Qtr 1887 Leeds
Mary FARLEY
William DEAN
BIRTH of their son:
William Henry DEAN , Mar Qtr 1889 Leeds, mms FARLEY
DEATH of husband (probable, if he died in Leeds):
William DEAN age 31, Dec Qtr 1889 Leeds
RE-MARRIAGE 1900 (likely):
Mary DEAN and Harry BELL
On same page, Sep Qtr 1900, Bradford
Cheers
AMBLY
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In imagining Henry/Harry GUTHRIE might be about the same sort of age as Ethel…..
There is:
BIRTH
Harry GUTHRIE , Jun Qtr 1905 Leeds - mms BRIDGE
MARRIAGE
Fred GUTHRIE
Lily BRIDGE Married Mar Qtr 1903 Leeds
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php
BAPTISM 1905: at the Primitive Methodist Chapel, Kirkstall, YKS
Harry GUTHRIE baptised 17 May 1905, born 20 Apr 1905
Parents: Fred GUTHRIE, Carter, and Lily GUTHRIE, abode: 8 Pratts Road, Kirkstall.
DEATH 1969:
Harry GUTHRIE , dob 20 Apr 1969, Leeds
May or may not be your Henry/Harry . But as Chempat says…..the marriage of Harry and Ethel is required to confirm your Harry's age, father's details etc.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Yes ethel did marry around 1927 her 1st daughter Irene was born in 1929, and ethel was by that time a Guthrie
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I have a Thomas Guthrie who married Hannah Bradford in Leeds in 1794 in my family tree. I am searching for Thomas's relatives who have him in their family trees also. Does your family tree go back that far?
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Hello
Frederick GUTHRIE is my step great grand uncle. If you require any further information I would be happy to share - Andrea
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Frederick (Fred) GUTHRIE 15/1/1883 - 25/10/1916 ? He's My 2x Great Grandfather. It seem that his wife Lily Re-married a year after his death.