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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northamptonshire => England => Northamptonshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: schrader on Wednesday 28 March 18 04:20 BST (UK)
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If any one has the time can someone look up Quarter Session October 1814 for Eleanor Berridge.
Sent as convict and would like to know the crime and any other details mentioned. Request to achives sent 4.2.2018 and still no response.
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Tried for Larceny and transported for seven years.
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Thank you very much.
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Are there actual incident & details like old bailey records? of just statement of facts of crime and sentence like all her convict records ? I was hoping for more details.
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I'm afraid that is quite literally all it says. At least she didn't appear in the death column as a couple of the entries have done!
What other information were you looking for?
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I was hoping for factual description of crime with witness's named, defendants comments etc, even if she was stealing to support children, previous offences. I have only looked at Old Bailey records before and perhaps quarter session records are not as informative, but was told they can be viewed at Northamptonshire Archives only by Northampton Family History Group, hence by look up request.
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Quarter Sessions aren't as informative as the Old Bailey, generally. Depends on how much detail the local magistrate had taken down. And they are mostly unindexed.
The documents required would be QSR2/120 & 121, the 1814 Michaelmas Session
This is what you tend to get at that date:
18 Mar 1814 Job Johnson of Towcester shoemaker was upon the complaint of David Dobbs Davies & Richard Webb both of Towcester, yeomen, convicted That on 17 Mar 1814 he did go into a certain Close or inclosed ground situated in Towcester called Cow House Close belonging to John Malsbury Kirby gent & wilfully cut lop top & damage a certain Timber Tree there growing called a Maiden Ash not having the consent of the said John Malsbury Kirby. Job Johnson fined £5 together with 11s for charges & expenses attending the said conviction this being his first offence.
The Assizes take the more serious cases, and those records are at the National Archives at Kew, but only start 1818 for Northamptonshire. Local newspapers would have recorded the trials at a later date, but barely had space to mention the murder and subsequent hanging of Thomas Morris in July 1814 - they were much too busy reporting the Napoleonic Wars.
Northamptonshire Recod Office are short-staffed, owing to the near-bankrupt state of our County Council, which may account for the lack of response.
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Thank you for your information on what I might likely get. Anything like the example I would be thrilled with. Thanking you also for the staffing situation, which is probably contributing to my lack of response from Archives.
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Hello Schrader
I expect you will have this but here goes
On Ancestry she is found under Australian Convict Transportation Ships reg from 1810 -1817
Other Fleets and Ships, and it only gives Larceny as the crime, there are other Berridges deported too
The ship appears to be The Northampton
As it is Easter I expect the Archives will be unavailable for a while but I may be able to get a look soon if Poss
Tanks for the Saw info!
regards Marton
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Schrader, just had a look at convict records.com au/shipsnorthampton1814, where there is a bit about Eleanor, when she got her ticket of freedom- who she married, and who her children were
The Northampton sailed on 17th June 1815 and arrived on Nov 8th, and it was the only voyage for convicts on that ship as it sailed for China after that
More records are held in the State Library of Queensland, which would appear to have more info
Her d.o.b. is given as 1793 and her death in 1881, good luck with the search ,I hope you can get further.Trove gives details about the Ship--National library ofAustralia
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Yes I do have that, but thank you anyway. I will be sending May Saw's/ Allen "s daughters family line to your daughter this weekend and if not too hot here (Brown snakes just love old cemeteries, long grass & sun) I will be going to Wollombi cemetery over easter to check out & photograph area, church etc for you, so you can see where Mary came to live.