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Title: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:17 BST (UK)
From Ancestry, "From 30 March to 2 April, you’ll be able to search millions of UK, Ireland and Commonwealth records – all completely free*. Start in Britain then head off to Australia, Canada, or wherever, and spend four full days finding long-lost family all over the Commonwealth."

Martin
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:36 BST (UK)
So are Ancestry also adding on 4 free days to all their loyal subscribers? I guess the answer will be, "No"  ::)

Rather than giving away free weekends its a pity they don't try and sort out all the problems they are having at the moment.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:38 BST (UK)
So are Ancestry also adding on 4 free days to all their loyal subscribers? I guess the answer will be, "No"  ::)

Rather than giving away free weekends its a pity they don't try and sort out all the problems they are having at the moment.

Well said Groom.................

Sandra
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:56 BST (UK)
Maybe they could give those of us who are subscribers free DNA tests all weekend   ::) :-X


Gadget
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: sami on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for that notice Martin  :)

sami
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Lisajb on Tuesday 27 March 18 22:06 BST (UK)
This is really strange, every time I go to see my daughter in Torquay, Ancestry  seem to make Commonwealth records freely available!
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 27 March 18 23:37 BST (UK)
So are Ancestry also adding on 4 free days to all their loyal subscribers? I guess the answer will be, "No"  ::)

Rather than giving away free weekends its a pity they don't try and sort out all the problems they are having at the moment.

No benefits for the longstanding subscribers....no discount for years of loyalty  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: lanercost on Wednesday 28 March 18 02:50 BST (UK)
Thanks Martin, love a free weekend.

No benefits for the longstanding subscribers....no discount for years of loyalty  ::)
Carol

:'(
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 March 18 07:47 BST (UK)
I only have a UK membership so will get the extra access but as I don't need it then no real extra benefit for me.

I hope that this time those getting it free won't be moaning about the problems they are having with access etc     ::)   :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:34 BST (UK)
I look on it as a consolation prize for having taken out a subscription.   :D  We won't have to answer any look-up requests over the weekend, and we can concentrate on our own researches.    ;D :-*
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: goldie61 on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:36 BST (UK)
Good old BumbleB.
Always a positive outlook!  ;)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 08:42 BST (UK)
So are Ancestry also adding on 4 free days to all their loyal subscribers? I guess the answer will be, "No"  ::)

Rather than giving away free weekends its a pity they don't try and sort out all the problems they are having at the moment.

No benefits for the longstanding subscribers....no discount for years of loyalty  ::)
Carol

It would be nice if they would add up all these free days and add it on to longstanding subscribers  :) :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: lisalisa on Wednesday 28 March 18 10:26 BST (UK)
I read this thinking good news as my sub expired at the start of March . . .  however I just signed in to check the subscription rates only to find a year doesn't appear to be an option any longer, it's either per month or per 6 months, and the 6 month rate is quite an increase on the 12 month rate.

So that's annoying.
I was offered the continuous membership of a year at renewal time, had no idea it was about to change/go up a lot.
 >:(

Lisa
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Wednesday 28 March 18 10:36 BST (UK)
There is still a 12 month sub! Try this link

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&o_iid=70089&o_lid=70089&o_sch=Web+Property
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 28 March 18 10:49 BST (UK)
You might find family in the records but they don't usually include public member trees in these offers.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:00 BST (UK)
There is still a 12 month sub! Try this link

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&o_iid=70089&o_lid=70089&o_sch=Web+Property


That's a pity offer only for new subscribers only  :(
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:17 BST (UK)
That's what I thought, but have been assured by several people who have done it that it works as long as you have let your subscription expire. Worth trying, they can only reject it. I think it ends 4th April.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:22 BST (UK)
That's what I thought, but have been assured by several people who have done it that it works as long as you have let your subscription expire. Worth trying, they can only reject it. I think it ends 4th April.

Might give it a go mine expires 2 April ...knowing my luck will probably reject it  ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:31 BST (UK)
I let my membership run out and immediately renewed it with that offer  ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:33 BST (UK)
I let my membership run out and immediately renewed it with that offer  ;D

Isn't it wrong though that you should have to do that? Why not offer it to loyal customers anyway?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:38 BST (UK)
I do agree that it should be offered to loyal customers, they don't offer us any discounts unlike F M P.
They do however hound us with emails for discounts for DNA  ::)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:46 BST (UK)
I let my membership run out and immediately renewed it with that offer  ;D

Did the same last August  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 March 18 11:49 BST (UK)
I let my membership run out and immediately renewed it with that offer  ;D

Did the same last August  ;)

Sandra

It will be interesting to see if it is still available when you need to renew it again  :-\  Mine was renewed shortly after yours  :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: lisalisa on Wednesday 28 March 18 12:44 BST (UK)
There is still a 12 month sub! Try this link

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&o_iid=70089&o_lid=70089&o_sch=Web+Property

thanks so much for the link  :)
have just signed up

Lisa
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 12:45 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Wednesday 28 March 18 12:52 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 12:59 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Wednesday 28 March 18 13:12 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed

If you still have trouble Rosie the sign up form gives the following contact number
0800 783 1340
(Mon-Fri 9am-10pm, Sat-Sun 9am-8pm GMT)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: lisalisa on Wednesday 28 March 18 13:15 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed

perhaps that link only 'links' to the offer if you don't have a valid subscription.
good luck for next week
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Wednesday 28 March 18 13:19 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed

perhaps that link only 'links' to the offer if you don't have a valid subscription.
good luck for next week

No! The link worked for me and I do have a valid Subscription.

EDIT: Just tried to sign up but it redirected me saying the email I entered was already in use by a member and asked for the password. No sign of Rosie's 6 month quote. 

Rosie, Have you unchecked the auto-renewal option in your a/c settings and checked to see what the renewal fee is?
When I click on 'My a/c' it provides start and renewal dates, type of subscription and the renewal charge.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 28 March 18 13:45 BST (UK)
From Ancestry, "From 30 March to 2 April, you’ll be able to search millions of UK, Ireland and Commonwealth records – all completely free*. Start in Britain then head off to Australia, Canada, or wherever, and spend four full days finding long-lost family all over the Commonwealth."

Martin
what does the asterisk* denote?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:16 BST (UK)


EDIT: Just tried to sign up but it redirected me saying the email I entered was already in use by a member and asked for the password. No sign of Rosie's 6 month quote. 

Rosie, Have you unchecked the auto-renewal option in your a/c settings and checked to see what the renewal fee is?
When I click on 'My a/c' it provides start and renewal dates, type of subscription and the renewal charge.

It comes up my subscription has been cancelled and will not be renewed and I have access till 2 April ...Renewal fee is £179.99 ......Still showing as 6 months for £69.99

Rosie  ???
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: larkspur on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:32 BST (UK)
I have premium membership . Runs out in September, says billing cycle annual and £119.99. Now maybe me being thick  ::)but will this be automatically renewed and if so how do I stop it. Or does the annual mean for the year only. Any advice please...
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:35 BST (UK)
To the right of that information it has

Subscription Options
Update payment information
Cancel subscription
View order history

Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:37 BST (UK)
From Ancestry, "From 30 March to 2 April, you’ll be able to search millions of UK, Ireland and Commonwealth records – all completely free*. Start in Britain then head off to Australia, Canada, or wherever, and spend four full days finding long-lost family all over the Commonwealth."

Martin
what does the asterisk* denote?

It was on the email, I didn't click to view the HTML so it is on its way to data heaven otherwise known as the bit-bucket.

It probably lets you know there's some sort of cats.

Martin
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: davidft on Wednesday 28 March 18 14:40 BST (UK)
From Ancestry, "From 30 March to 2 April, you’ll be able to search millions of UK, Ireland and Commonwealth records – all completely free*. Start in Britain then head off to Australia, Canada, or wherever, and spend four full days finding long-lost family all over the Commonwealth."

Martin
what does the asterisk* denote?

The asterisk denotes

*Access to the records in the featured collections will start on 30 March and will be free until 2 April 2018 at 23:59 BST. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured collections using a paid Ancestry.co.uk membership.

There was also a link that you could press to see what the featured collections were. The above information was taken from here

http://www.greatpaxton.org/Ancestory%20Search-free%20this%20Easter2018.pdf

but I am sure many more sites will have the same
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 28 March 18 18:08 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed

If it doesn't work next time - try using your husbands name or a different e-mail address on the same link.

Sandra
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Wednesday 28 March 18 19:26 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,
 The problem Rosie is having is that when clicking the link ( https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&o_iid=70089&o_lid=70089&o_sch=Web+Property ) provided earlier in the thread she is not going to the same page that others are.

I can think of two possibilities:-

1: the link is LOCATION specific, i.e. only works if your ISP is in England. (Don't know if that is possible) I notice Rosie's location is Scotland.

2: There is a cookie on her computer which is over-riding her browser.
Rosie have you tried using a different computer to access the link? Do you have the same result?

Otherwise I am baffled.

Regards,
Malcolm
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 21:16 BST (UK)
Just clicked on the link and the offer comes up at £69.99 for 6 months ? am I doing something wrong ?

Rosie

Must be! :D
I've just done the same and it came up £60 uk Premium and £90 Worldwide, both 12 months.

Unfortunately I already have a subscription. In January they made me an offer I coudn't refuse;- 4 months at £5/month.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Which thinking about it works out the same as this offer.

Will try next week when my subscription ends fingers crossed

If it doesn't work next time - try using your husbands name or a different e-mail address on the same link.

Sandra


Will try it next week Sandra when my subscription runs out  :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 28 March 18 21:26 BST (UK)
Just a thought - Rosie, were you actually logged in to ancestry when you looked the offer up.  If you log out and use the link does it take you to the  £89-99 offer. Might make no difference but worth a try.

Sandra
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 21:36 BST (UK)
Just a thought - Rosie, were you actually logged in to ancestry when you looked the offer up.  If you log out and use the link does it take you to the  £89-99 offer. Might make no difference but worth a try.

Sandra

You are so right Sandra done as you suggested.... so will try next week  :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 28 March 18 21:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Martin Sandra has worked it out  :P :P

Rosie
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: DavidG02 on Wednesday 28 March 18 22:33 BST (UK)



The asterisk denotes

*Access to the records in the featured collections will start on 30 March and will be free until 2 April 2018 at 23:59 BST. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured collections using a paid Ancestry.co.uk membership.

There was also a link that you could press to see what the featured collections were. The above information was taken from here

http://www.greatpaxton.org/Ancestory%20Search-free%20this%20Easter2018.pdf

but I am sure many more sites will have the same
Thank you
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Wednesday 28 March 18 22:40 BST (UK)
Well done Sandra!! ;D  ;D

Never thought of that.  ???
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: susieroe on Friday 30 March 18 09:01 BST (UK)
There is still a 12 month sub! Try this link

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&o_iid=70089&o_lid=70089&o_sch=Web+Property

Groom, thank you so much for that link! I've been having withdrawal symptoms since Christmas as I couldn't afford the Ancestry sub - far too expensive for me now. Bless you, it's a godsend, I feel more 'me' again now I can escape to the past! ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Friday 30 March 18 09:07 BST (UK)
Glad to have been of assistance.  ;D. Don’t forget to keep checking the automatic renewal is unticked so they don’t charge you full price next year.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: larkspur on Friday 30 March 18 11:34 BST (UK)
To the right of that information it has

Subscription Options
Update payment information
Cancel subscription
View order history

That is all well and good Rosie, but if I click on it. I am cancelling my sub. now and I do not want to do that. I want to make sure I am not on auto renewal, and I can find nothing for that option.As mentioned above by Groom.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 30 March 18 11:42 BST (UK)
I cancelled my subscription by doing that shortly before it was due to run out.  The subscription continued to the end of my 12 month period.  I got emails confirming it would stop at the renewal date (not the date I had cancelled it on)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Friday 30 March 18 11:52 BST (UK)
Quote
That is all well and good Rosie, but if I click on it. I am cancelling my sub. now and I do not want to do that

They have to let it run until the end of the subscription date as you've paid for that.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Clarkey500 on Friday 30 March 18 13:16 BST (UK)
I will keep an eye out for the Ancestry offers when my subscription ends in August. In the meantime, I will utilise the free access for the other Commonwealth records as I too only have the British subscription.

Now, which great, great uncle was it that went abroad!?! ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Friday 30 March 18 14:24 BST (UK)
In case it's any consolation to those who have subscriptions, I have spent all morning looking through records for free but learned nothing that I did not know already and could not have found out from the Mormon web site or other free sites.  One enters a name and is shown 30 or so possible records, most of which don't match.  There appears to be no way to restrict the results by time or place or type of record, and no way to search further records for the name supplied: just take it or leave it.

It's simply a teaser to try and encourage us to take out a subscription. 
I for one am not tempted.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: coombs on Friday 30 March 18 14:36 BST (UK)
Strike when the iron is hot. I shall certainly be checking up on those rellies that went abroad.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: larkspur on Friday 30 March 18 14:46 BST (UK)
I have a premium membership, already checked the US records and just getting sent to the board to upgrade. So certainly not letting me view anything for free  ???

Thank you Rosie and Groom, I stand corrected. Legs have been firmly slapped  8)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 30 March 18 14:55 BST (UK)
Perhaps you are not seeing US records as I think it is only access to Commonwealth records  :-\

I hope you did not really think we were slapping your legs  :-\
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Melbell on Friday 30 March 18 16:44 BST (UK)
I feel silly.  I have just taken out the annual sub at £59.99 but cannot find the auto-renew button to untick!

Please can anyone tell me where it's hidden?

Thanks!  By the way, I am logged in.

Melbell
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 30 March 18 16:48 BST (UK)
I did not think there was an auto renew tick on Ancestry, I know there is one on FindMyPast.  :-\

Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Friday 30 March 18 16:55 BST (UK)
You're right Rosie - I was thinking of FindMyPast. It's a bit crafty really, they send you a reminder a month before and if you don't cancel, it auto renews. So you have to make sure you watch out for that email and cancel then or make a note of when your subs is up for renewal. They don't remind you for monthly subs!

https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Ancestry-Account-Renewal-1460088564871-2196
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Friday 30 March 18 17:01 BST (UK)
Strike when the iron is hot. I shall certainly be checking up on those rellies that went abroad.

I'll be very surprised if you find them!  You just get a random selection of records that vaguely match the name entered.

I was hoping to find people in the 1911 census, to enter the details at Lost Cousins (also free this weekend, folks!), but Ancestry won't reveal the reference numbers (folio, page, and so on) unless one subscribes.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 30 March 18 17:29 BST (UK)
I was hoping to find people in the 1911 census, to enter the details at Lost Cousins (also free this weekend, folks!), but Ancestry won't reveal the reference numbers (folio, page, and so on) unless one subscribes.

But there are no folio/page numbers for 1911.
Unlike the earlier years, for 1911 we see the original household schedules.
There is a piece number, which is given by ancestry.
They usually give the schedule number in their transcript (but not always!) If they don't, then it can be found in the top right hand corner of the schedule, or in the enumerator's summary books. Would Lost Cousins want that?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: susieroe on Friday 30 March 18 17:40 BST (UK)
Glad to have been of assistance.  ;D. Don’t forget to keep checking the automatic renewal is unticked so they don’t charge you full price next year.

Oh yes! They send me an email, so I unsubscribe from that.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Friday 30 March 18 18:17 BST (UK)
Thank you, jonw65.

The schedule number is there at top right of the form, but no piece number which is also required.
As non-subscribers we see only the form, no transcript.

For the 1841 census one has to state piece, book, folio, and page.
I see something like HO107/577.18, which I assume is just piece and book.
Page number is on the page, of course, but where is the folio number?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Melbell on Friday 30 March 18 18:21 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie and Groom

That's not very good, but at least I don't feel daft not being able to find the button!

Melbell
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: smudwhisk on Friday 30 March 18 19:33 BST (UK)
The schedule number is there at top right of the form, but no piece number which is also required.
As non-subscribers we see only the form, no transcript.

Are you able to click the second button down on the right hand side (looks like a bar with an arrow to the left), one of the buttons to the right of the next page button?  If you can, select source and the piece number is on there.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 30 March 18 20:38 BST (UK)
But you can still see the transcriptions on ancestry! If you click on "View Record"
John
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: SilverGrowler on Saturday 31 March 18 01:32 BST (UK)
I find the free weekends very useful. Otherwise I have to go to my local library to use the free Library editions which have most of the information. I will subscribe only if i need to.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Saturday 31 March 18 08:18 BST (UK)
I find the free weekends very useful. Otherwise I have to go to my local library to use the free Library editions which have most of the information. I will subscribe only if i need to.

The problem is SilverGrowler, surely if everyone did that Ancestry would soon collapse, they rely on subscribers to stay in business.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Saturday 31 March 18 14:28 BST (UK)
But you can still see the transcriptions on ancestry! If you click on "View Record"
John

I see what I was doing wrong: I was going in via "Free Access" at the top of the screen.
Nobody told me I should just pretend to be a subscriber.
Now I get the reference numbers: thanks!

Not sure about smudwhisk's buttons, but perhaps I don't need them now.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: smudwhisk on Saturday 31 March 18 14:33 BST (UK)
Not sure about smudwhisk's buttons, but perhaps I don't need them now.

See attached two images.  The first shows the suggestions buttons as they appear normally (the one you want is the 2nd one down, they are "white" on grey).  The second one shows when open and source selected, the appropriate button appears green as expanded.

Ignore where it says "1900 US Census", that's the usual Ancestry anomaly showing the wrong data set, you can see its the 1911 Census.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Saturday 31 March 18 14:43 BST (UK)
Thanks, smudwhisk, but it doesn't look anything like that on my screen.
I get just + and - buttons, and above them arrows for navigating (though I can also click and drag the image).

In the meantime, by not being so naive as to click on "Free Access", I've found two folio numbers that were illegible before, and shall carry on like that.  It seems less slow, too.

And they do have some weird transcripts, don't they?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: ankerdine on Sunday 01 April 18 08:04 BST (UK)
This hasn't encouraged me to go with Ancestry. I much prefer the layout and feel of FindMyPast.

judy
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: clairec666 on Sunday 01 April 18 10:45 BST (UK)
I find the free weekends very useful. Otherwise I have to go to my local library to use the free Library editions which have most of the information. I will subscribe only if i need to.

The problem is SilverGrowler, surely if everyone did that Ancestry would soon collapse, they rely on subscribers to stay in business.

Surely each library is paying a lot to Ancestry for the library edition, and if people like SilverGrowler continue to support their local library, the library will continue to pay Ancestry for their service.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: bikermickau on Sunday 01 April 18 12:57 BST (UK)
I found on one occasion with Ancestry when I cancel a years subscription within a month of starting they cancel the whole year and fully refunded what I paided.

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That is all well and good Rosie, but if I click on it. I am cancelling my sub. now and I do not want to do that

They have to let it run until the end of the subscription date as you've paid for that.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: bikermickau on Sunday 01 April 18 13:03 BST (UK)
I found this after reading Ancestry faq's
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"You may cancel a free trial anytime during the free trial period and incur no charge. For all initial purchases of subscriptions longer than one month, you may cancel during the first 30 days (calculated from the date of purchase plus the free trial period, if applicable) and receive a full refund. If the cancellation occurs after the first 30 days, you won’t be eligible for a refund. If you cancel your subscription but are not eligible for a refund, you’ll retain access to the subscription until it expires.
For renewals of subscriptions longer than one month, cancel within seven days of the renewal date to receive a full refund. No refund is available for monthly subscriptions.
For gift subscriptions, the refund period begins on the date of purchase."


I found on one occasion with Ancestry when I cancel a years subscription within a month of starting they cancel the whole year and fully refunded what I paided.

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That is all well and good Rosie, but if I click on it. I am cancelling my sub. now and I do not want to do that

They have to let it run until the end of the subscription date as you've paid for that.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Sunday 01 April 18 14:00 BST (UK)
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For all initial purchases of subscriptions longer than one month, you may cancel during the first 30 days

So you cancelled it too quickly.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: bikermickau on Sunday 01 April 18 14:06 BST (UK)
Yes, actually worked out well as I was able to take up another cheaper offer from Ancestry.

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For all initial purchases of subscriptions longer than one month, you may cancel during the first 30 days

So you cancelled it too quickly.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 02 April 18 13:12 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra and Groom ......have just renewed my membership at discount price one happy bunny
 :D :D :D

Rosie
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Monday 02 April 18 14:42 BST (UK)
That's good, glad that it worked.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Monday 02 April 18 17:18 BST (UK)
There's something very odd in the 1841 census.
At top right of each right-hand page there's a large number that I take to be the folio number.
Very often at top left of the left-hand page is the mirror image of a number 1 fewer.
I don't know how that comes about, but frequently Ancestry gives the lower number in its summary.  Can anyone tell me which is correct?
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 02 April 18 17:26 BST (UK)
Yes:  every other page changes the Folio number -  so for instance, folio 45 covers pages 5 and 6, and then folio 46 covers pages 7 and 8.  The mirror image is just "bleed through".

Assume that the right-hand page with the "large number" is the beginning of that particular folio number, and it covers 2 pages. 

Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Monday 02 April 18 18:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for the explanation, BumbleB.

What a way to run a railway, as my father would have said!

I suppose folio = foglio = feuille = sheet, but I feel a page number would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Monday 02 April 18 18:15 BST (UK)
BumbleB, in your example, you say folio 45 covers pages 5 and 6, and then folio 46 covers pages 7 and 8.  So, if folio 44 covers pages 3 and 4, and before that folio 43 covers pages 1 and 2, how do folios before 42 fit into it all?

Martin
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 02 April 18 18:28 BST (UK)
I wasn't looking at anything in particular.  It was an example  :) :)
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Monday 02 April 18 19:10 BST (UK)
Martin,

I have found, for example, folio 51 page 18, or folio 23 page 4.
There's no rhyme or reason to it.  Someone at the P.R.O. must have had a perverted sense of humour.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 02 April 18 19:13 BST (UK)
Have you looked at the image?  Come on, give us the full details so that we can look for ourselves.

Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: JenB on Monday 02 April 18 19:17 BST (UK)
Martin,

I have found, for example, folio 51 page 18, or folio 23 page 4.
There's no rhyme or reason to it.  Someone at the P.R.O. must have had a perverted sense of humour.

It’s nothing to do with the PRO, it’s simply the way they decided to set up the census page numbering in the first place.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: HughC on Monday 02 April 18 19:31 BST (UK)
Well it's still perverse, sez I.

And those folio numbers appear to have been stamped on afterwards, not printed with the forms.  That's presumably why they bleed through to the other side.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Monday 02 April 18 19:51 BST (UK)
It is odd.  I would expect perhaps a couple of lead-in pages, Folios 1 & 2, then Folio 3 for pages 1 & 2 proper then Folio 4 for 33 & 4 etc.  But I'm a mathematician.

Martin
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Monday 02 April 18 20:16 BST (UK)
It is odd.  I would expect perhaps a couple of lead-in pages, Folios 1 & 2, then Folio 3 for pages 1 & 2 proper then Folio 4 for 33 & 4 etc.  But I'm a mathematician.

Martin
I've just had a look on Ancestry. Class: RG13; Piece: 3555. The first Folio is no. 101 which appears to be the enumerators details and schedule/route.
The next image Ancestry show is 104, page 1 of the census list, page 3 has the no 105 etc., etc
What was on Folio 102/3 I have no idea. possibly instructions for enumerator on doing his duties.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: macwil on Monday 02 April 18 21:02 BST (UK)
cracked it I think.
just looked at RG13/3552

Wigan  - district 1
The enumerators page has the folio no. 2, the first list page 1 has  5, page 3 has 6 etc. etc. until the final page 43 has 26. then comes district 2
the enumerators page has 27, page 1 of the list has 30, page 3 has 31 etc. until the last page 49 has 54.
District 3 enumerators page has 55, page 1 of the list has 58, page 3 has 59 etc.

What I think this shows is that the folio numbers were added at the time all the district returns had been collated for that Parliamentary Borough.

The page numbers re-start with each district.

EDIT:- Ahhh! Then they go and partially ruin that idea when they get to District 8 it has the ref RG13/3553 and the renumbering starts again, maybe it is a second book for Wigan, which does have 51 Districts so they must have numerous books hence the piece no. change.

So the folio numbers refer to each leaf within each book which covers several districts and each book is given a piece number.

That is my supposition/theory.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: dorothyl on Sunday 08 April 18 03:15 BST (UK)
I always look forward to ancsetry  free weekends 

They seem to come round on certain  holidays.  And I agree with a member.  Why not give free dna. Like they do with there  search  engine / website.


Dorothy
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: groom on Sunday 08 April 18 18:17 BST (UK)
And I agree with a member.  Why not give free dna. Like they do with there  search  engine / website.

Dorothy

Probably as it would work out too expensive. The whole idea behind giving the free weekends is to entice people into subscribing to Ancestry, or FindMyPast when they do the same. However, the idea seems to have backfired, judging by the number of people on here and on other forums who say they just wait for the free weekends. Also there are now quite a few people who have actually cancelled their subscriptions and wait for the freebies.

I know I have thought about doing the latter, but I think I would miss it too much. It would though be nice to be offered an incentive eg after two or three years of a continuous subscription to be told they were giving me an extra month free.

I could understand it if once you'd had a free trial you couldn't then have another, but to allow free trials every time seems a bit short sighted to me. It would be interesting to know how many people do then join after such a weekend.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: hurworth on Sunday 08 April 18 19:39 BST (UK)

I could understand it if once you'd had a free trial you couldn't then have another, but to allow free trials every time seems a bit short sighted to me. It would be interesting to know how many people do then join after such a weekend.

I was quite busy over Easter so not online much, but found the Canadian records useful for a couple of branches of the family, so I've taken out a worldwide sub for the first time.  I've had other subs before, but not worldwide.
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 08 April 18 19:52 BST (UK)
I do agree, about the "time after time" of being able to take advantage of the freebies - once, twice even is OK, but every time = NO, NO, NO.  It just makes those of us who have taken the plunge, feel less inclined to help others.  In my case, I no longer respond to requests at these times.  Maybe I'm lucky in that OH and I have access to both FindMyPast and Ancestry.  Each to their own  :-*
Title: Re: Find your family, all long weekend
Post by: dorothyl on Sunday 08 April 18 21:05 BST (UK)
 I have  access to both Ancestry and find my past. and my heritage.

  but in a way whay would we need free dna each time like we can get on ancestry. when if you did have free dna you can only use it once. and ive heard it somewhere not sure where but apprently. how do you really know its your true reasults. 

theres also something im wearie of. with alot of  people who pretent to be what there not meaning fake sites  your not sure if you get anything you pay for anyway.

im not critaziing anyone. just a thought. as you hear so many Hoax's.


Dorothy