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Title: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: weddieD1948 on Sunday 25 March 18 21:45 BST (UK)

Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date do you think it is, I can find no information from any site about his military service

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 25 March 18 21:51 BST (UK)

All service records for personnel serving after 1920 are still with the MOD :-\
You won't find anything online.

You can apply for his service record from:
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

There is a fee of £30, and you will need to send a copy of his death certificate.

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: MaxD on Monday 26 March 18 10:21 BST (UK)

Although the cap and badge and gut feeling says to me Scots Guards, the cap badge could be any one of dozens.  The era is WW2 although you could narrow that down by his age at that time.

Following KGarrad's advice is the only way to go (and you don't need to know his regiment for that).

MaxD

Image for comparison but not really inviting comment!!

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: weddieD1948 on Monday 26 March 18 11:03 BST (UK)

Thanks very much, what can you do with no service number available, all I have is pictures of my dad in England ? and later on in India, There is no body left in the family, to give any clue.

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: MaxD on Monday 26 March 18 11:48 BST (UK)

Fear not - as long as you have his date of birth, his death cert and the requisite £30 those good folks at Glasgow will find him, the form requires date of birth and/or service number.

MaxD

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: weddieD1948 on Monday 26 March 18 11:54 BST (UK)

Thanks again That is me miss reading, does the death cert need to be original or copy ???? Thanks again.

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: MaxD on Monday 26 March 18 14:20 BST (UK)

The form says a copy.

MaxD

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: alan o on Saturday 31 March 18 15:36 BST (UK)

They are wearing Batledress so after 1938.  The peaked caps were a inter-war design and mostly obselete by 1940 but a few regts (Guards, RHA, Corps of Mil Police) retained them

They are names as Gdsm (Guardsman) so are either Scots, Coldstream or Irish Guards.  Coldstrams had the largest cap star so my money is them.
 
The Tunics are the pre war pattern with covered buttons.  Mid wr they were replaced with exposed button fronts.  I would suggest you can date it from 1938-41.  It looks like a recruit platoon photo in basic training so if you know when he enlisted that will confirm the year.

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: MaxD on Saturday 31 March 18 17:02 BST (UK)

For clarity - the squad photo was posted purely to support my theory that the original photo may well be of a Scots Guardsman, it is not related to the man posted in the first post.

MaxD

Title: Re: Trying to work out what uniform my dad is wearing and what date
Post by: John915 on Saturday 31 March 18 18:03 BST (UK)

Good afternoon,

I go with MaxD, probably Scots Guard but could be a different regt.

Also, just a minor point, in the group photo the sgt, front row, is wearing a 1902 pattern tunic not 1938 pattern.

John915