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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Hiedihi on Sunday 25 March 18 15:54 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I'm really struggling to find any information on my GG Grandmother Mary Susannah Hunter.
I know she was born around 1860 but unsure where. She married my GG Grandfather Carlisle ( Carlyle) Robinson in 1896 in Hartlepool which is where I'm from but I can't seem to find her parents.
I have found a birth in Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire but not feeling 100% that its her.
Can anyone else possibly give this one a go?
I'm back so far on all branches other than this one and desperately need to crack it or at least have a date or two to order her birth certificate.
Thanks everyone!
Heidi
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Do you have her marriage certificate / record? If so what was her father's name?
Was she a spinster when she married or was this a second marriage?
Do you have her on any census returns, before/after her marriage?
Boo
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Welcome to rootschat
It looks as though the Mary Susanna whose birth was registered Great Ouseburn was buried at Boroughbridge 16th March 1862 (an infant) though I can't see a death registration for her
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat, the Mary S Hunter who married Carlyle Robinson looks to have been born c 1875?
1901 census RG13/4636/160/15
Keyboard86
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Her daughter Agatha Hunter Robinson has mmn Hunter on GRO index ;)
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According to the 1901 and 1911 Census records she was born about 1875/6 in the County of Durham.
I think you need to work backwards this rather than jump to her birth. Go through the census records when she is with Carlyle - then you know you have the correct Mary - collect what she says about her age and birth place.
Definitely obtain her marriage certificate - then go through census records BEFORE she marries, as you will have her father's name to help.
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Just beat me to it Keyboard, but
she's down as being 30 in 1891, 25 in 1901 and a free search of the 1911 has her as 35.
EDIT : sorry that 1891 is his ( I assume) first wife
Boo
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The Robinson children of Carlyle and Mary Susannah have the mother's maiden name as Hunter. Therefore it would appear that she was a spinster on marriage.
JJ
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Just beat me to it Keyboard, but she's down as being 30 in 1891, 25 in 1901 and a free search of the 1911 has her as 35.
Boo
The 1891 census is for a different person - Mary Jane (nee Lax)
Burial -
Mary Jane Robinson
Age: 30
Burial - 20 Aug 1891, South Hetton, Durham
JJ
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Hi all, her pob on 1901 looks something like Borsbeck or similar?
Keyboard86
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I read it as Boosbeck which isn't in Durham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosbeck
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Just beat me to it Keyboard, but she's down as being 30 in 1891, 25 in 1901 and a free search of the 1911 has her as 35.
Boo
The 1891 census is for a different person - Mary Jane (nee Lax)
Burial -
Mary Jane Robinson
Age: 30
Burial - 20 Aug 1891, South Hetton, Durham
JJ
Yes, apologies, I've just noticed that, so it was a second marriage for him
Boo
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Yes Carlyle is older than the Mary he is with in 1901 and 1911 so he could have been married twice.
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Possible 1881 -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-RNJS
JJ
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Just beat me to it Keyboard, but she's down as being 30 in 1891, 25 in 1901 and a free search of the 1911 has her as 35.
Boo
This has been the thing that's thrown me too! Carlyle was married twice, first to a Mary Jane Lax then to Mary Susannah Hunter and there's just too many bloomin' Mary's!
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As has already been said you really need the marriage certificate ;)
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This has been the thing that's thrown me too! Carlyle was married twice, first to a Mary Jane Lax then to Mary Susannah Hunter and there's just too many bloomin' Mary's!
I have a lady who married 3 times, each time her husband was called Robert! Maybe they had pillowcases with names embroidered so they looked for a new spouse who would match them :-)
Boo
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1881 -
Joseph J. Hunter 38
Margrett Hunter 33
Eleanor Hunter 13
Annie Elizabeth Hunter 10
Mary Sussanah Hunter 5 b. Boosbeck, Yorkshire
Edward Moore Hunter 8
Ernest Hunter 3
RG11 Piece 5043 Folio 13 Page 19
This could be correct however the marriage cert would be your best option.
JJ
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This has been the thing that's thrown me too! Carlyle was married twice, first to a Mary Jane Lax then to Mary Susannah Hunter and there's just too many bloomin' Mary's!
I have a lady who married 3 times, each time her husband was called Robert! Maybe they had pillowcases with names embroidered so they looked for a new spouse who would match them :-)
Boo
Saves on any embarassing moments!
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Good find JJen ;D
HUNTER, EDWARD MOORE mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 857
Could his age on census be 3 :-\
HUNTER, MARY SUSANNAH mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 488
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Good find JJen ;D
HUNTER, EDWARD MOORE mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 857
Could his age on census be 3 :-\
HUNTER, MARY SUSANNAH mmn MOORE
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 488
Thanks Rosie :)
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to add to that, Ernest Hunter 1873 Q1 Gateshead MMN MOORE
I think the boys ages may have been transposed on the 1881 census?
Gateshead registrars index search show the subdistrict of Whickham which is right for him being born in Dunston
Boo
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1881 -
Joseph J. Hunter 38
Margrett Hunter 33
Eleanor Hunter 13
Annie Elizabeth Hunter 10
Mary Sussanah Hunter 5 b. Boosbeck, Yorkshire
Edward Moore Hunter 8
Ernest Hunter 3
RG11 Piece 5043 Folio 13 Page 19
This could be correct however the marriage cert would be your best option.
JJ
Thanks so much! I'll order it tonight and wait on that coming - will let you know who is right :-)
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In case you aren't aware, you can now order .pdfs of a birth entry in the original register, rather than an official cert via the GRO site search for the birth and then choose which option you want.
.pdf is £6 , cert is £9.25
Boo
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Just posting this for future reference (if required) -
1891 -
Joseph John Hunter wid 49 Joiner
Ernest F Hunter 18
Minnie Hunter 15 b. Boosbeck, Yorkshire (I believe this to be Mary S)
Edward M Hunter 13
Joseph T Hunter 8
Agatha M Hunter 4
RG12 Piece 4054 Folio 112 Page 13
We'll look forward to the results of the marriage cert :)
JJ
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In case you aren't aware, you can now order .pdfs of a birth entry in the original register, rather than an official cert via the GRO site search for the birth and then choose which option you want.
.pdf is £6 , cert is £9.25
Boo
Ok - Ill attempt this now!
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If the certs confirm that the Joseph and Margaret on the 1881 census were 'your' Mary Susannah's parents, which is highly likely, then this may also be of interest.
I got nosey about the girl who was born c 1871 in the USA, between the one born in Dunston and another born in Boosbeck.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-R79P-YH?i=23&cc=1849782
That image shows a passenger list including Joseph, Margaret and the eldest girl Eleanor travelling fromLiverpool on the Wm F Storer, arriving in New York 19th May 1870
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-R79P-YH?i=23&cc=1849782
If you page back to image 19, that is where the header page for the ship is (though its not easy to read)
Boo
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If the certs confirm that the Joseph and Margaret on the 1881 census were 'your' Mary Susannah's parents, which is highly likely, then this may also be of interest.
I got nosey about the girl who was born c 1871 in the USA, between the one born in Dunston and another born in Boosbeck.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-R79P-YH?i=23&cc=1849782
That image shows a passenger list including Joseph, Margaret and the eldest girl Eleanor travelling fromLiverpool on the Wm F Storer, arriving in New York 19th May 1870
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-R79P-YH?i=23&cc=1849782
If you page back to image 19, that is where the header page for the ship is (though its not easy to read)
Boo
Interesting! I cant wait to find out!