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Title: London GGFather
Post by: jahitchman46 on Saturday 24 March 18 15:47 GMT (UK)
The trail went cold on my Maternal GGf James Boddey (Other spellings) Parents, He was Born in Saint Lukes London 1854.
lived in Bromley East London (Bow) Can't find his parents should be able to but can't??
His Daughter my GMother was Mary Jane Boddey trouble is like a lot of people she used to drop the Mary? she married Edwin Garrod.
JH
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 15:57 GMT (UK)
Hello,

It helps if you can give details from censuses and marriage.

Is this him in 1891 322/103 living in Bromley?

James Body 34 yrs
Jane Body   35 yrs
William Body 13 yrs
Frank Body 3yrs
Jane Body   10 months

Do you have his marriage with a father’s name?

Heywood
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: chempat on Saturday 24 March 18 16:03 GMT (UK)
There is a tree on Ancestry with this family (no parents, unfortunately), were you aware of it?
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: iluleah on Saturday 24 March 18 16:05 GMT (UK)
Is this your James? If so you can order the birth cert which will confirm his parents

Name    James Bodey
Event Type    Birth Registration
Registration Quarter    Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year    1853
Registration District    St. Luke
County    London
Event Place    St. Luke, London, England
Volume    1B
Page    539
Line Number    4
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 24 March 18 16:08 GMT (UK)
Birth registration above has mothers maiden name Warrington

Caroline Body Jun 1849 also St Luke mothers name Warrington
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
From the tree mentioned by chempat, this would probably be Mary Jane

Mary Jane Body, 1890 Sept. Poplar vol 01C, pg 572 mmn Sykes.
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: jahitchman46 on Saturday 24 March 18 16:14 GMT (UK)
Yes, I'm on Ancestry your right no Parents,
could be but 1891 said born 1857 Iluleah
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 16:15 GMT (UK)
1901 349/134/16

James Boddey 42 yrs b St Luke’ s with Jane and family including Jane Sykes, 80yrs mother in law which confirms the Sykes connection.

The two censuses here show James born 1857 and 1859  :-\
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 16:18 GMT (UK)
Do you have his marriage?

1889 December quarter Mile End Old Town
James Body and Mary Jane Thorp
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: chempat on Saturday 24 March 18 16:23 GMT (UK)
So her previous marriage:
Marriages March quarter 1878 
 Mary Jane    Sykes    Mile End    1c   800   
Alfred John Thorp    Mile End    1c   800
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 16:27 GMT (UK)
Death?

James Boddey, 55 yrs born abt 1852. December quarter 1907 Poplar
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: heywood on Saturday 24 March 18 16:41 GMT (UK)
There is another James of similar age and birthplace married to Elizabeth.
He is James Gutridge Boddy with father Thomas according to marriage in 1879.

JH,
What have you found from your searches?
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 24 March 18 17:58 GMT (UK)
Do you have his marriage?

1889 December quarter Mile End Old Town
James Body and Mary Jane Thorp

Just to add, there's a Thorp witness [William Alfred] to Mary Jane Boddey's marriage to Edwin Garrod
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 24 March 18 18:07 GMT (UK)
Looks like William Alfred is Mary Jane's half brother

THORPE, WILLIAM  ALFRED      mmn SYKES        
Q4 1877  STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 490
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: jahitchman46 on Tuesday 27 March 18 13:56 BST (UK)
Thanks, all I will collate all this,
Mabel bagshawe =Funny thing we all knew of Mary j's half-brother (Thorp) but he comes up everywhere as Frank? and was known as Frank.?
JH

Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 27 March 18 19:35 BST (UK)
Looking at the 1891 family posted earlier Frank is another half brother b c1888 - as a reminder

James Body    34
Jane Body    35
William Body    13
Frank Body    3
Jane Body    10/12

William & Frank are registered as Thorps but presumably are using their step father's surname here
Title: Re: London GGFather
Post by: jahitchman46 on Wednesday 28 March 18 10:11 BST (UK)
Well, I'm surprised to find Frank had a brother with him, we always thought he stayed with his mother (M.J.Thorp nee Sykes) while the rest of her Brood grew up and left, Frank was single all his life and lived with his Half Sister M.J.Boddey when she Married.
That info is a big piece of the Jigsaw to the puzzle, Thank you Mabel Bagshawe