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Title: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Taylor94 on Friday 02 March 18 08:13 GMT (UK)

I cant seem to see the marriage of my 10th grt grandfather John Cave.
His wife is a Margaret and they go on to have children in Kibworth Beauchamp.
My 9th grt grandmother is Mary Cave bapt Jun 1656 Kibworth Beauchamp.
I have wife Margaret as dying Feb 1695 Kibworth Beauchamp.
I've checked on FindMyPast/Freereg and I cant see any marriages. Without a Marriage I cant really pinpoint an area of birth, although going by the first child born to the pair, there are a few baptisms which could possibly be John.
Any help would be appreciated.

Title: Re: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Bunnygirl on Saturday 03 March 18 09:42 GMT (UK)

Hi Fenboy94
Sorry I can't help you with a marriage BUT Kibworth Beauchamp Parish Register has this

Grace Cave c 21 April 1650 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort Leics
Edith Cave c 12 Sept 1652 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort Leics
John Cave BIRTH  25 April 1654 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort
Mary Cave BIRTH 8 June 1656 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort Leics
Mary Cave BURIAL 8 July 1656 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort
Zachery Cave c 17 June 1659 parents John & Margaret of Kibworth Harcort
Rachel Cave  c 11 April 1662 father  John  of Kibworth Harcort 
Rachel Cave BURIAL 21 March 21 March 1674 father John of Kibworth Harcort

Looks like John & Margarets Mary only lived for a few weeks.

Hope this helps
Bunnygirl

Title: Re: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Taylor94 on Saturday 03 March 18 15:28 GMT (UK)

Thank you for that.
Hmm this is what I have leading to Mary Cave.
My 8th grt grandmother Rachel Wilford bapt Aug 1685 Great Bowden, Leic. Parents William and Mary.
Rachel marries John Carter 20 Jun 1708 Great Bowden. John is of Kibworth Beauchamp.
Rachels parents I have as -
William Wilford bapt Aug 1656 Great Bowden, Leic. Father William.
William marries Mary Cave 30 Nov 1676 Foxton, Leic.

As you say that Mary born to John and Margaret dies that only leaves Mary Cave bapt 10 Jul 1650 Stanford on Avon, Leic. Parents Sir Thomas Cave and Dame Penelope.
Although I think this Mary goes onto marry Sir Orlando Bridgeman in 1670...

Title: Re: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Bunnygirl on Sunday 04 March 18 21:50 GMT (UK)

Hi
Great Bowden Parish Register has this;
Marriage 20 June 1708 John Carter & Rachel Wilford. John of KIBWORTH HARCOURT

And this
Elizabeth Wilford c 18 October 1677 father William
Joseph Wilford c v9 Feb 1678 father William
William Wilford c 18 March 1682 father William
William Wilford BURIAL 8 July 1684 (nothing in the notes)
Rachel Wilford c 26 August 1685 father William
William Wilford BURIAL 22 March 1685 (this could be Rachels father) nothing in the notes
BUT
A marriage  15 January 1687 Mary Wilford to Francis Tilly

Regards
Bex

Title: Re: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Adammjwilford on Sunday 10 April 22 22:03 BST (UK)

Hi did you ever get to the bottom of this please as I have links to the wilfords of great bowden and an still living locally. I was born in market harborough and live in Oadby

Title: Re: John Cave bapt and Marriage?
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 11 April 22 07:56 BST (UK)

It strikes me that it's entirely possible that there were other possible babies baptised with the same name in the right time frame, but records going back into the 1600s can be very patchy and many have not survived, or are illegible.