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Title: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: wemorin3 on Sunday 18 February 18 02:43 GMT (UK)
How is your reading of olde English?  In the 1851 Census for Bilston, Wolverhampton, there is a listing for Richard Cooper (scribed Rich) with wife Ruth and 4 children.  It appears to me that Richard was not born in England but I can't make out where his birthplace is, as written.  Any thoughts?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: matthewj64 on Sunday 18 February 18 02:59 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has it as "Whenlostt, Shropshire, England"
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: majm on Sunday 18 February 18 03:04 GMT (UK)
Salop ... that's very definitely in England  :)  :)

JM
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: matthewj64 on Sunday 18 February 18 03:10 GMT (UK)
A family tree has it as Much Wenlock, Shropshire
?
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: wemorin3 on Sunday 18 February 18 04:16 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has it as "Whenlostt, Shropshire, England"

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: wemorin3 on Sunday 18 February 18 04:17 GMT (UK)
Salop ... that's very definitely in England  :)  :)

JM

Great.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: StevieSteve on Sunday 18 February 18 04:33 GMT (UK)
Can I just check that you're going for Much Wenlock which exists rather than Whenlosst which doesn't?
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: wemorin3 on Sunday 18 February 18 04:38 GMT (UK)
Can I just check that you're going for Much Wenlock which exists rather than Whenlosst which doesn't?

I appreciate that.  Ironically, I feel "whenlosst" quite often while researching.
 ;)
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 18 February 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
Salop is a name for Shropshire. A Salopian is a person who lives/was born in the county.
According to Your Dictionary website* Salop is Early Middle English, a shortening of Salopescira from Old English Scropscir and possibly from Scrobbesbyrigscir.
Some of those words are proper Old English. What was written the census return was modern English, only a century or so since! I expected to see an extract in Secretary Hand or similar.  ;D
* Definition from Webster's New World College Dictionary 5th Edition 2014
www.yourdictionary.com/salop
Title: Re: Help Reading Older Script
Post by: wemorin3 on Sunday 18 February 18 17:07 GMT (UK)
Salop is a name for Shropshire. A Salopian is a person who lives/was born in the county.
According to Your Dictionary website* Salop is Early Middle English, a shortening of Salopescira from Old English Scropscir and possibly from Scrobbesbyrigscir.
Some of those words are proper Old English. What was written the census return was modern English, only a century or so since! I expected to see an extract in Secretary Hand or similar.  ;D
* Definition from Webster's New World College Dictionary 5th Edition 2014
www.yourdictionary.com/salop

Thank you.