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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Sligo => Topic started by: eileen d on Friday 16 February 18 01:53 GMT (UK)
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Quilkin, Quilken, Culkin, Cuilkin, McManus
Any family relatives still living in and around Sligo? My Dad was John/Sean Harmony Hill area.
His Dad was Thomas and his Mum was Ellen McManus
Thank you
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Welcome to RootsChat elleen.
We can't help you with living relatives but one may spot your post someday.
We can possibly help find records from earlier if you haven't already done so.
It's always a good idea to provide some dates so people have an idea of time period.
There is a marriage in 1926 of a Thomas Cuilkin and Ellen McManus
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1926/09124/5300037.pdf
Would this be your grandparents marriage?
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Thank you so very much. Yes that would be my grandparents. Fits with my Dad and siblings birth dates.
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Not sure if you want more or not but this is the McManus family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Sligo_West_Urban/Harmony_Hill/770358/
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Possible for Thomas
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Sligo_West_Urban/Rathedmond__Part_of_/770181/
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Oh thank you so so much. Really appreciate the quick responses. This is all so helpful.
Eileen
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Robert's birth gives his mother as Margaret O'Malley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01540/1623594.pdf
1911 Census tell us they are married 15 years and John is from Cavan.
married 1895
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10544/5840748.pdf
John is a widower.
John wasn't a barber at this stage and I think he and Margaret are in the Workhouse in 1901, not 100% sure of that yet.
Two more sons born after the census
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lle/
I can't find the first two girls Ellen and Mary Ann
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Thanks for all the information above. Super helpful.
Been "studying" hard and so far here is where I am.
My Dad and siblings born Dromore West to Thomas Culkin and Ellen McManus. Dad Sean(John Joseph), his Mum(Ellen) and 4 other siblings went to Birmingham late 40s where last name became Quilkin.
Grandad Thomas one of 9 born to John(Sean)Cuilkin and Bridget Connolly.
Still gathering info on McManus and O'Malley Great Granny. Also Connolly and Moffatt Great Granny.
Cannot find and info on John's parents . He was born 1869 ish. Some say Larry but cannot a Larry that fits the dates. Lots of Lawrence/Laurence/ but just trying to get my connection correct.
Anyone know or know of someone who may be able to fill it in?
Thanks so much.
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The following John Culkin was born on 16 October 1868:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03416/2252946.pdf
He was baptised on 19 October 1868 according to this Templeboy RC parish register (left page, 4th entry up from bottom):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634638#page/4/mode/1up
Parents Laurence Culkin and Mary Anne Moffett were married in Kilmacshalgan RC Chapel on 26 November 1864, Lawrence was recorded as a 25 year old farmer living in Cannaghanally, the son of Patrick Culkin, a farmer, 21 year old Mary Anne was living in Patch, the daughter of John Moffett a farmer, the witnesses were Henry Culkin and Sibina Grehan.
Griffith's Valuation shows a Patrick and Laurence 'Quilcan' in Cannaghanally, print date for the locality was 1857:
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
The names Patrick, James and Laurence 'Culkeen' appear in the Tithe Applotment Books under Cannaghanally in 1833:
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10544/5840748.pdf
A transcription of the church version of the above record of marriage on 22 April 1895 provides both parents for bride and groom. John's were recorded as Charles McManus and Mary Anne Cassidy. Margaret was recorded with the surname Meally and her parents given as Thomas Meally and Margaret Lawson.
A possibility lies in Manorhamilton marriage banns for Charles McManus and Mary Cassidy, both living in 'Killinagh'(?), who got married on 3 April 1846.
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Has the marriage of John and Bridget Connelly been found?
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... A transcription of the church version of the above record of marriage on 22 April 1895 provides both parents for bride and groom. John's were recorded as Charles McManus and Mary Anne Cassidy. Margaret was recorded with the surname Meally and her parents given as Thomas Meally and Margaret Lawson ....
Some O'Malley stuff.
Church records of marriage for the following civil registrations show the bride's parents in each case as Thomas O'Malley and Margaret Lawson, so possibly sisters of Margaret who married John McManus in 1895?
Julia O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10462/5809878.pdf
Charlotte O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10405/5789261.pdf
Mary O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10380/5779312.pdf
Birth of Julia O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03186/2168178.pdf
Birth of Charlotte O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02862/2048773.pdf
Birth of Mary O'Malley:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02965/2086343.pdf
And the birth of Margaret O'Malley who married John McManus:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03261/2195470.pdf
This is a possibilty for Thomas O'Malley and Margaret Lawson in 1901 ...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Collooney/Tully_More/1682833/
... given that there is the following birth of a John O'Malley in 1887:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02538/1939877.pdf
This is a possibility for Thomas O'Malley in 1911 ...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Collooney/Cartronduffy/754920/
... ... given that there is the following birth of a Sarah O'Malley in 1870:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03323/2218301.pdf
... who married Martin McGoldrick in 1901:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10327/5759424.pdf
There is a civil marriage registration under Sligo for Thomas OMelia and Margaret Lawson in Q1 1869, volume 12, page 295, the image is yet to be uploaded to the 'IrishGenealogy' website.
Death of Margaret (Lawson) O'Malley in 1907:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05514/4545255.pdf
Death of Thomas O'Malley in 1921, informant was daughter Margaret McManus:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05084/4395331.pdf
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The 1895 marriage of John McManus to Margaret O'Malley showed the groom as a widower. John's previous marriage was to Mary Harte in 1881:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10990/8018491.pdf
Mary's death in 1893:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05994/4705182.pdf
I mention it because the church record of the 1881 marriage is consistent in identifying both parents of John - Charles McManus and Mary Cassidy - and it indicates John's residence as Roo, County Cavan (8th entry down from top):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632301#page/44/mode/1up
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... I mention it because the church record of the 1881 marriage is consistent in identifying both parents of John - Charles McManus and Mary Cassidy - and it indicates John's residence as Roo, County Cavan (8th entry down from top):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632301#page/44/mode/1up
While I can't see a baptism for John McManus, I can see the following in respect of a couple called Charles McManus and Mary Cassidy:
- a son Frank baptised in 1861 in the RC parish of Killinagh, County Cavan, the address given as 'Rue'
- a daughter Ellen born in 1864, same address as above and Charles was recorded as a shoemaker:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03596/2325785.pdf
- a daughter Alice born in 1867:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03485/2281043.pdf
- a daughter Mary Anne born in 1869:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03373/2236462.pdf
The previously mentioned 1846 'Killinagh' marriage now looks more promising.
Possibility in 1901 census?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Esky/Roo/1049644/
Possible death for Mary?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05671/4597178.pdf
Maybe Charles' death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1880/06488/4867095.pdf
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Thank you again.
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Apparently John "Sean" Culkin that I need to find was born to Larry Culkin and ? Mary Miles.
Sorry should clarify that I have John married to Bridget Connolly and had 9 children born with first 2 passing very young.
I believe Bridget's parents maybe Patrick Connolly 1846 and Anne McDonnell 1852.
It is the Larry and his spouse I cannot find nor if there were any siblings for John.
Thanks again