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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: karhel on Sunday 21 January 18 16:19 GMT (UK)
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Michael FitzGerald, soldier c1880s. married at Newbridge 1885. Could anyone help or advise me to find which Regiment Michael was in at this time. born c1843 died 1901
karhel.
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This may help http://www.kildare.ie/library/ehistory/2012/08/newbridge_barracks_the_first_u.asp
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It may help the search to know he was in Curragh Camp Kildare January 1885, Shambles Camp Galway Nov 1885, and a son was born Barton Regis 1887.
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The listings of Stations of the Army, while throwing up regiments in those places at relevant times during 1885, don't produce any consistent result. For example, the 1st Dragoons were at Newbridge in Jan 85, the 5th Dragoons took over from them in mid year and were still there in Dec 1885. There is no regiment I can find to have been in the Curragh and Galway in the months given.
That doesn't mean that he wasn't in those places. The Stations list covers the main units of the army, not all of them and barracks rarely had representatives from only one regiment in them. The Curragh in particular contained a number of regiments. At the Curragh in Jan 1885 were 4 battalions of infantry, a brigade of field artillery and a company of engineers. There were companies of the Commissariat and Transport Corps everywhere but being unglamorous tend not to show up in lists! The army also had a habit of stationing parts of regiments in different places.
I feel that trying to find him by location is unlikely to succeed - do the marriage and birth certs not give a regiment??
MaxD
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Soldier on marriage cert on the Curragh,
Mess man on first child's cert in Shambles.
Don't know about Barton Regis.
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Another go round the buoy. The only regiment listed in Galway in November 1885 was the 1st Battalion West Yorkshire Regiment, they had been there all year and I can't tie them to the other places. Failed I'm afraid.
MaxD
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Early 1880s at the Shambles Barracks, Galway was most likely the Connaught Rangers. They were formed in 1881 by amalgamation of the 88th and 94th Regiment of Foot and their official base was Renmore Barracks, but that barracks was brand new, only opened in 1881 and their previous barracks the Shambles took several years to transfer fully.
Photo of the Shambles:
https://www.facebook.com/343507811543/photos/a.343572501543.157648.343507811543/10154336184671544/?type=3
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> The only regiment listed in Galway in November 1885 was the 1st Battalion West Yorkshire Regiment
Militarily, the whole of Ireland was administered as a separate command within the United Kingdom. So it's possible that Irish regiments were not included in English sources of the period? Galway was the home base of the Connaught Rangers until their disbandment in the early 20th century.
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All regiments Irish or not are listed in the official Naval and Military Gazette of the time.
In November 1885, 1st Battalion Connaught Rangers were in Bengal, 2nd Battalion in Templemore Tipperary (they had been in Fermoy in January-July/August 1885).
MaxD
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Michael FitzGerald, soldier c1880s. married at Newbridge 1885. Could anyone help or advise me to find which Regiment Michael was in at this time. born c1843 died 1901
karhel.
where was he born?
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Thank you everyone for all the info. I have only just been able to return to working on my Family History re Michael FitzGerald Have taken all the info given to work on. Unfortunately I cannot find a birth place for Michael. I understand it was c1843 and possibly England.!!!! !! 3 siblings born Limerick, One 1845 born Southampton. Also married 1885 Roman Catholic Chapel, Curragh Camp, Newbridge. - any ideas where I would get marriage cert.
Apologies for not replying earlier.
Karhel.
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Marriage certificate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10859/5965211.pdf
This was posted in your other thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=397207.msg6412941#msg6412941
Is this what you mean?
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Karchel
By pure chance I was looking into the marriage of my great aunt and I found that she married Arthur Desmond Burke Fitzgerald in Waterford in 1907. Arthur was the first child of Michael Fitzgerald and was born in The Shambles Barracks in 1885. Arthur married in 1907 and the witnesses were R Fitzgerald and E Fitzgerald, probably siblings of Arthur. Arthur was the manager of The Trinity Club in Waterford at the time but went on to manage my great grandmother's pub in Waterford. He died aged 27 in 1913 from TB. The death was registered by his mother Emily, who presumably had moved to Waterford.
Tom
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Marriage of ARTHUR FITZGERALD and MARGARET POWER
on 24 April 1907
Father Michael FITZGERALD born England.
So have you looked for Marriages of R Fitzgerald and E Fitzgerald to see if they were siblings?
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Hi Tom. & hallmark Thanks for your posts.
I knew Arthur married Margaret Power, but did not have the death
of Arthur. As far as I know Oscar (1887) was his younger brother. . E. FitzGerald could have been
his Mother, married to Micheal (Michael died in 1901 Waterford) and R. FitzGerald (Rosanna, wife of Micheal's brother Thomas) I dont know any others with those initials. Not even aunts/uncles.
What I cannot find is where Micheal was born in England. One sister was born in Southampton 1845 the other siblings in Limerick and Rathmines.
Karhel.
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Can you post the full names and years and places of birth of his siblings?
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Hi.
Father: Thomas B. married Bridget A Sheehan Limerick 1835
John F. bap. 10.09.1836 (St. Johns Limerick)
Catherine bap. 24.09.1838 (Limerick - poss. died young)
Mary Olivia bap 12.09.1840 (Limerick) - d. 13.12.1904
Catherine (known as Kate Theresa) b. 06.09. 1845 - St. Marys Southampton - d. 16.12.1919 M/cr.
Thomas C. bap. 14.04.1850 (Rathmines, Dublin) d. 08.11.1935 - M/cr
Michael Joseph ??? c1843 m.1885 Limerick
Children of M.J. Arthur 6.11.1885 (Shambles Barracks)
Oscar W.F. b. 01.07.1887 (Barton Regis, Glos.) Horfield Barracks.
I presume I have these correct!!!!
Karhel