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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: dawn-in-nz on Friday 19 January 18 11:01 GMT (UK)
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Back in about 1793 Isaac BROWN was born in a place called Sunborn in Essex according to his entry in the 1851 census.
I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to find where Sunborn might be but so far it's eluding me. Mr Google seems to think I want to book into a very overpriced Sunborn Yacht Hotel!
I've even looked to see if there is anyone else who says they were born in Sunborn, Essex in any of the census and out of the hundreds of people in them all there are five who say they were born in either Sunborn or King Sunborn which is in Hampshire, one from Sunborn in Huntingdonshire and another in Suffolk.
Google Maps has never heard of any of them apart from the Luxury Yacht in London.
British History Online was no help either.
The old maps in the National Library of Scotland doesn't know it either although they did give me a list of alternatives and one of them was King's Somborne which is in Hampshire so I'm guessing that's where most of the people in the census were from.
Which doesn't help me with Sunborn in Essex! Isaac Brown died in 1858 so that's the only census I have his birthplace in. In 1841 and his wife in the next three census was living in various places in London with all their children being baptised at St George in the East, Tower Hamlets or St Leonard's Church in Shoreditch.
I'd like to look for him on SEAX but without indices it would take me forever to search through all the available parishes, I need to know which parish Sunborn is in, if indeed there is such a place in Essex!
HELP please......
cheers....Dawn
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I can't even find the 1851 census entry.
Can you provide more detail?
There's a Stamborne. http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeS/essexs19.html
on that page, it's shown as Samborne ( Cary's New and Correct English Atlas, 1798 )
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Is he the Isaac Brown who is a Farm Bailiff?
Emeltom
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In 1851 Isaac can be found at:
Household schedule number:
76
Piece:
1534
Folio:
222
Page Number:
19
Occupation: Corn Porter.
Place of birth does look like Sunborn .... but the 'r' looks a little different from others on the page. :-\
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A bit left of centre, but as there appears to be no such place as Sunborn in Essex, i was wondering if boundaries had changed. Best I can come up with is Sudbury in Suffolk:
SUDBURY, a parish, market town, and municipal borough, chiefly in the hundred of Babergh, county Suffolk, but including the parish of Ballingdon-cum-Brundon, county Essex,
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Bit of a stretch I know. :)
There is a Sunbury is Middlesex .... :-\ I can't see anything that looks like Sunborn I'm afraid.
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Thank you so much everyone, I do believe that PaulineJ may have hit the nail on the head! I'll look into Stambourne/Sambourn in Essex.
I think all your questions may have been answered by someone else now, so thank you all once again. I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers....Dawn
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Well I didn't have any luck in the Stambourne, Essex parish records, back to the drawing board.
I did find a Stambourne Way in the borough of Croydon (or Bromley) in London but Isaac said in the 1841 census he was NOT born in the county he was living in at the time, Finsbury in Middlesex, so I'm sticking with either Essex or one of the counties on the border with Essex.
I might give Sudbury a go too.
Cheers....Dawn
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Hi
Just so you know, Croydon's in Surrey, Bromley's in Kent
Good luck!
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Thanks Stevie, it sure is a minefield! I'm currently looking at all the parishes around Stambourne in Essex, plenty of Browns but none that look familiar so far.
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What do you think of Sandon in Essex?
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I thing it more likely to be Stambourne if it's in Essex, there is this birth in Bocking which is about 12 miles from Stambourne.
Isaac Brown. b 03 Oct 1792, baptised 25 Dec 1792. St Mary the Virgin. Bocking. Essex.
father David, mother Susanna.
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Sandon is on my to look at list thanks Stevie and I'll also look at that Bocking one too, thanks so much Solidrock.
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Sandon is a small village just off junction 17 of the A12 in Essex, adjacent to Great Baddow and close to Danbury.
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I found that baptism at Bocking, it seems it's in the right time frame but the names of his parents (& some siblings) just don't fit at all. Isaac didn't name any of his children David or Susanna and neither of those names have been carried forward to future generations so I'm just not sure now.
However, I have had a bit of a breakthrough in a marriage I found between William Brown bachelor of Stambourn and Sarah Titterill spin on 5 Apr 1774 at Castle Hedingham, St Nicholas.
Sarah Tittrell IS a name Isaac gave to one of his daughters so things are looking up, a long way to go yet. Castle Hedingham is next on the list to look at!
I'm so very thankful for everyone's help, without it I would still be floundering as I live in NZ and have never been to the UK.
Cheers....Dawn
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A lot of my ancestors came from Halstead and Castle Hedingham area, I found the records are quite well documented online, good luck.
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Not sure if it is going to help or confuse the issue, but there is a Sunborn Festival in Essex;
https://en-gb.facebook.com/sunbornfestival/
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This might be worth trying:
https://www1.essex.ac.uk/history/esah/essexplacenames/
The difficult bit is knowing exactly what to search for, assuming 'Sunborn' is a corruption :-\
Just noticed your last post re Stambourn so possibly not needed now