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Title: William Caunt marriage
Post by: oakhambred on Saturday 13 January 18 17:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have a William Caunt, born about 1834 Garthorpe, Leicestershire, according to various ancestry trees.  Father poss William Luis Caunt 1795 Arnold Notts and mother Mary Lunley 1802 Notts. 
William married Eliza ?  1828 Shillington, Lincolnshire, 6 May 1863 St. Mary's Nottinghamshire.  I would like to know Eliza's surname if anyone can help.  They are living in Garthorpe in 1861. 

Regards

Julie
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 13 January 18 18:12 GMT (UK)
Have you tried using the GRO Birth Index to check the mother's maiden name of any children?? https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp  You have to register but it's free to   search

Kay
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 January 18 18:12 GMT (UK)
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William married Eliza ?  1828 Shillington, Lincolnshire, 6 May 1863 St. Mary's Nottinghamshire

Where did you get that info from?  The only one in Notts 1863 was to Jane Muslow/Muxlow
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 13 January 18 18:14 GMT (UK)
It took me a while to find them in 1861 RG09/2304 f96 p12  :)

CAUNT, MARY  ANN     mothers maiden name GRIFFON     
1860  June Quarter
MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 241

CAUNT, SAMUEL  GRIFFEN     mmn GRIFFEN     
1855  June Quarter
MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 230
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 January 18 18:15 GMT (UK)
Poster says marriage was 6.5.1863
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 13 January 18 18:16 GMT (UK)
Marriages Sep 1863   (>99%)  > No Eliza there
Caunt    William        Newark    7b   341   
MUXLOW    Jane        Newark    7b   341
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 13 January 18 18:18 GMT (UK)
CAUNT, JOHN       mothers maiden name GRIFFIN    
1852  March Quarter
MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 244

1861 has William bn c1834  and ELIZABETH bn 1828
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 13 January 18 18:18 GMT (UK)
Marriages Dec 1848   (>99%)
Caunt    William        Melton Mowby    15   399   
Picketts    Elizabeth        Melton Mowy    15   399

CAUNT, WILLIAM       PIKETT     
GRO Reference: 1849  J Quarter in MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 15  Page 218

CAUNT, FRANCES       PIKETT     (Female)
GRO Reference: 1851  D Quarter in MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 15  Page 212

CAUNT, MARY  ANN     PIKETT     
GRO Reference: 1854  J Quarter in OF MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 245

CAUNT, JOHN       PIKETT     
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 227

CAUNT, BETSY       PIKETT     
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in MELTON MOWBRAY  Volume 07A  Page 209

Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 13 January 18 18:26 GMT (UK)
England marriages has on familysearch
William Caunt
Elizabeth Griffin
Event Date 1846
Place   Skillington, Lincolnshire

Dec qtr 1846
Caunt  William   
Elizabeth Griffen   
Grantham    14   701   
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 January 18 18:33 GMT (UK)
Poster says William was b 1834 so could not have married in 1846
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 13 January 18 18:39 GMT (UK)
1851 ? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGF2-FXC

1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YV-7MD

& 1871. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFTT-G4X

Looks like 1861 is wrong on age.

Charlotte in 1841? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYF-RLB
Charlotte in 1851? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGF2-FXW
1861 ? (verify ages from image) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YV-QTM
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 13 January 18 18:41 GMT (UK)
OP also says that in 1861 the family were living in Garthorpe - RG9/2304 folio 96, page 12

William Caunt - 27
Elizabeth - 33
John - 8
Samuel - 5
William - 3
Mary Ann - 10 months

So a marriage in 1863 is also a little suspect  :-\  Where does the exact date come from?
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 January 18 18:45 GMT (UK)
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Where does the exact date come from?

I agree - see my reply #2
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 13 January 18 19:08 GMT (UK)
I think it would be better to take a step back and ask which of the children Of William and Elizabeth are of the correct line. To me there seems to be a couple of William's knocking about in that timeframe.
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: oakhambred on Saturday 13 January 18 19:12 GMT (UK)
As I said before, I saw the date on various family trees.  I am going by the birth and census in Garthorpe.  Eliza born Shillington c1828.  Confusing.

Thanks

Julie

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Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 13 January 18 19:15 GMT (UK)
As I said before, I saw the date on various family trees.  I am going by the birth and census in GarthorpeEliza born Shillington c1828.  Confusing.

Thanks

Julie

And as before, we are asking who is the initial target person that led to this census?
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 13 January 18 19:33 GMT (UK)
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I saw the date on various family trees

Didn't you check it on freebmd etc?  Given that you say you have them on the 1861 census - an 1863 marriage makes little sense unless it is a second marriage
Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: Annette7 on Sunday 14 January 18 01:53 GMT (UK)
William's wife in 1861 is Elizabeth, not Eliza and as birth entries on GRO index show her maiden name was Griffin or Griffen (also in 1851).

As already mentioned, William Caunt and Elizabeth Griffin married 1846 Shillington.

His age is wrong on 1861 census - shows him as 27 but 1851 census also shows him (with Elizabeth) as 27.

His baptism is actually 3/12/1822 Garthorpe, son of William and Charlotte.

Annette

Title: Re: William Caunt marriage
Post by: Annette7 on Sunday 14 January 18 02:18 GMT (UK)
William Caunt born Garthorpe was not the son of the possible couple you mentioned (who were in Nottinghamshire).

William's parents were William and Charlotte and this is their marriage:

William Caunt and Charlotte Geeson married 29/10/1821 Garthorpe, Leicestershire.

Census shows he was bc.1794 Foston, Lincolnshire.

Annette