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Title: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: NEL on Thursday 11 January 18 01:47 GMT (UK)
Looking for Loyd's from Staffordshire... born in Bilston both forge men/ iron workers and ended up in Kidsgrove and Goldenhill. John 1818 from Moorcroft, Bilston and Edward 1823 Bilston.. Think Father may be William 1796 and his wife Mary. Also Jane and Harriet possible daughters of William. Darlaston and Willenhall mentioned in Bmd/ census I have looked at. I don't know the area so any help appreciated,  Nel   
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: solidrock on Thursday 11 January 18 02:28 GMT (UK)
1841 census, Moor Croft, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.

William Loyd. Male 45-49. Staffordshire
Mary Loyd. Female 45-49. Staffordshire
John Loyd. Male 20-24. Staffordshire
Edward Loyd. Male 15-19. Staffordshire
Mariah Loyd. Female 14. Staffordshire
William Loyd. Male 12. Staffordshire
Richard Loyd. Male 10. Staffordshire
James Loyd. Male 5. Staffordshire

    
John Lloyd. baptism 16 Aug 1818, Wednesbury, Staffordshire.
Edward Lloyd. baptism 23 Mar 1823, Darlaston, Staffordshire.
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 11 January 18 10:10 GMT (UK)
There is a baptism at St Lawrence, Darlaston on 23 Mar 1823 of Edward LLOYD, parents William and Mary, William is noted as an engineer, abode: Moorcroft.
(on FreeReg)

Also John LLOYD, at St Bartholomew, Wednesbury on 16 Aug 1818, parents William (forgeman) and Mary, abode: Wednesbury.

Jane LLOYD, at St Lawrence, Darlaston on 5 Nov 1820, parents William (engineer) and Mary - abode: Moorcroft.
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 11 January 18 10:36 GMT (UK)
Other baptisms that I can see to William and Mary that look like this family:

- Elizabeth - 28 Feb 1813 at St Bartholomew, Wednesbury (William is engineer, abode: Bilston)
- Joseph - 6 Nov 1825 at St Lawrence, Darlaston (William is engineer, abode: Moorcroft)
- Maria - 22 Apr 1827 at St Lawrence, Darlaston (William is engineer, abode: Moorcroft)
- William - 3 May 1829 at St Lawrence, Darlaston (William is engineer, abode: Moorcroft)
 - Richard - 7 Aug 1831 at St Lawrence, Darlaston (William is engineer, abode: Moorcroft)
- James - 25 Oct 1835 at St Bartholomew, Wednesbury (William is engineer, abode: Wednesbury)
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: maddys52 on Thursday 11 January 18 10:51 GMT (UK)
Just to note there is also an 80 year old Susanah BRAIN (?) with the family solidrock found in 1841.
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: ciderdrinker on Thursday 11 January 18 12:45 GMT (UK)
Hi
1851 Catherine Lane Darlaston
William LLoyd 60 lab NK
Mary 58 NK
Richard 19 puddler Bilston
James 14 Bilston.

Not very helpful but 1841 does say Staffordshire for all but Susanna Brain.

Possible burial for William- St George Darlaston of the Green 1 Feb 1859 age 72.
There are other William Lloyds in the area.

Two marriages at wolverhampton St Peter's again not certain
William LLoyd widower to Mary Ann Allen 24 Dec 1809
William LLoyd to Mary Garbitt 20.3.1809 both bach and spins

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: NEL on Thursday 11 January 18 13:44 GMT (UK)
Many thanks.... I noticed how many Loyd's in the area there were. But thank you for untangling it and confirming things cheers Nel
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: NEL on Friday 26 January 18 22:02 GMT (UK)
Have been looking at Susanna Brain... Likely a relative, have tried looking for her as Mary's mother or Williams mother but remarried. No hit's at all. On 1851 census both Mary and William state N.K Salop and later on 1861 census Mary is a widow and states ludlow as place of birth... Have looked at Shropshire but without any luck..... ??? any ideas??
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 27 January 18 03:38 GMT (UK)
Cant' really help with Susannah BRAIN, however just to note that there is also this possible marriage (in addition to those found by ciderdrinker) for William LLOYD to Mary BULLOCK - 09 Nov 1812 at All Saints West Bromwich (both otp). Witnesses are Richard BULLOCK and Sarah HOLLAND - all sign by mark.

I don't have access to the original image of the 1841 census - I wonder if BRAIN is a correct transcription? (Can't easily see a death for her?)
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: NEL on Saturday 27 January 18 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for your reply, I've seen the 41 census and it certainly looks like 'Brain' and on bmd she died in 1847 also Brain. So born about 1761 tried looking for her marriage etc. to no avail. Thanks for the info and will try again with the names to see if there's a connection ;D
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 29 January 18 03:52 GMT (UK)
Umm, not sure which death you mean in 1847 - according to the GRO the Susannah BRAIN who died reg Sep qtr 1847 Aston Union was only 56, so probably not the one in the 1841 census.
Title: Re: loyd's from The Black Country
Post by: NEL on Tuesday 30 January 18 23:44 GMT (UK)
Ok thanks, putting 2 and 2 together etc. Will try some other options