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Title: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 12:51 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace anything about ,Michael flaherty Kilronan inismore ,around 1830,he had a son called Martin, who left Kilronan ,late 1800s,  we think he may have joined  British army ,and was maybe posted to Southere Ireland, maybe Co.Cork, would be grateful for any information ,
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 14:23 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.
Do you have Martin's birth or Baptisim?
Do you know who Michael married.

There is a better chance of finding Michael through Martin's birth so if you don't have it can you give us an idea when was he born.
Civil Registration started in 1864.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 14:49 GMT (UK)
Unfortunatly,no birth cert for Martin,but ,according to census1901,he was born 1856 ,then census 1911, born 1855 ,and acording to his death cert born 1846, We have found his grave ,and according to headstone , born 1854,So he may have been born ,in 1846 ,1854,1855,or 1856,So it is most likely ,it was sometime in mid 1850s. We also have a marraige cert for him ,He married Norah Shine in 1888,and on marraige cert ,It says his fathers name is Michael,but no other imformation ,on him .
We do know ,both Michael and Martin were born on inismore ,and according to older relatives ,townland of Kilronan.Nobody knows what Michaels wifes name was ,or if there were more children besides Martin,Thank you,
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 15:48 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately the west coast is where most emigration occurred but is also where the least amount of parish records survive.
Martin won't have a birth cert and baptisms for that period don't survive
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1042

It may still be possible to find a Michael Flaherty at some later point in his life but without Martin's mother's name there is no way to tell if it is the correct Michael.

The Army angle could prove useful.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 16:00 GMT (UK)
Yes we have also hit a wall ,trying to find anything on Michael ,But thank you very much ,for taking the time ,We did unearth,a lot of information on Martin though ,
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 16:06 GMT (UK)
Just looking at the name, Flaherty and Faherty are in the top 3 most common on Innisheer, Innismaan and Innismore so the chances of more than one Michael in or around Kilronan at the same time are very high, add to that it appears the Civil Registration only gives the name of the island as an address not where on the island. None that I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: josey on Tuesday 09 January 18 16:14 GMT (UK)
He married Norah Shine in 1888,and on marraige cert ,It says his fathers name is Michael,but no other imformation ,on him .
The certificate does state that Michael was a labourer - probably doesn't narrow it down but it's a start. Witnesses were Timothy Nagle & Mary Buckley. All 4 made their marks.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 16:15 GMT (UK)
Oh correction just found some births with Kilronan as address, but unless Michael and his wife were still having children into the 1860s.....
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: josey on Tuesday 09 January 18 16:34 GMT (UK)
I found 2 sets of army references to A Martin Flaherty [1] born ca 1851 in St Augustine parish, Galway who enlisted into the 56th regiment in 1869 - but was discharged 1890 & with father named as William married Teresa Howell in 1879 [so not him] & [2] a no-age no place of birth Martin in the 40th [W Norfolk] Regiment in 1871. No luck there then....
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 19:57 GMT (UK)
I looked at Flaherty birth from 1864 to 1867 registered in Galway and there was none father Michael, Kilronan.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 20:03 GMT (UK)
Oh dear ,that is dissapointing, I wonder if there is a chance ,he was never registered, .?Thank you for going to the trouble anyway,
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 20:04 GMT (UK)
Of course I think he was born before then ,and I think it was around 1855 ish
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 09 January 18 20:32 GMT (UK)
I was looking for a possible younger sibling.
There is always the possibility he wasn't from Kilronan but simply named it as the nearest town to where he lived, people often do that.
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Tuesday 09 January 18 20:47 GMT (UK)
Yes of course that is quite possible , and this information is passed on to us ,from an elderly relative ,so maybe its not ,correct ,,
Title: Re: Relatives
Post by: myoung on Monday 09 April 18 22:41 BST (UK)
Since I wrote initial enquiry, I have since ,learnt ,Martin served in India, but cant find any army record for him by the time he married in 1888,he didn't list his occupation as a soldier ,so we presume he had left Army by then .any help would be greatly ,appreciated