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Title: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: alig4 on Thursday 04 January 18 11:55 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has any info on why the Rathmines church records for marriages only go up to 1901 on the NLI?

I am looking to see the parish register of a marriage of Joseph Brady & Catherine/Kathleen Byrne which I know takes place 05/06/1907

I know his father is Joseph and that Joseph (Jnr) is a harness maker but I am looking to find the name of his mother

Based on when he dies and also a census entry he should be born between 1878 - 1883

Hope someone can help :)
Thanks
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 12:17 GMT (UK)
His residence is on Civil Reg Cert... Arnott Street so is he on 1901 Census?
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 12:20 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Arnott_Street/1346373/
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 04 January 18 13:10 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has any info on why the Rathmines church records for marriages only go up to 1901 on the NLI?


Most of the registers on NLI stop at 1880
https://registers.nli.ie/about
It was believed after this date civil registration would have (almost) full compliance so ensuring later church registers were recorded on film was not seen as necessary.
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: dathai on Thursday 04 January 18 13:10 GMT (UK)
He's down as visitor on 1901 census so may only be a visitor rather than an in law
see the Roberts marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10750/5920222.pdf
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: alig4 on Thursday 04 January 18 13:40 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Arnott_Street/1346373/

thanks for that I had seen that but didn't really think it could be right because they're all CoI but Joseph and the Mary Ann at the bottom seem to be RC.

I found the Roberts marriage but oddly it looks like her father is called Hardman? and he's a solicitor not a name i'm familiar with so not sure if that brings my search to an end  ::)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10750/5920222.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10750/5920222.pdf)
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Cottages/66234/

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Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: alig4 on Thursday 04 January 18 14:01 GMT (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Cottages/66234/

??

yeah I've got that one but nothing on it to get me back a generation
I think his father was an engineer from what I can read on the marriage in 1907 so tried finding other children whos father had the same occupation but nothing

The only Joseph that even comes close is one born to a Joseph and Mary Murphy in 1876 but trying to find out for sure who she is isn't proving easy

Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:07 GMT (UK)
Easier if you post links to records etc
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Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: alig4 on Thursday 04 January 18 14:13 GMT (UK)
Easier if you post links to records etc
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will do - wasn't sure if could copy images

Annie thornbury listed as sister in law is a Brady too I've just found and shes Annie "Montford" Brady when she marries so I'm hoping that's janes surname so i'll have a look to see
father is dead 1899 so just need to have a look at deaths to see if I can find a name similar to Hardman because that's definitely his name because it's on the second marriage cert

Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:23 GMT (UK)
I make it Harman, not Hardman...
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:26 GMT (UK)
You can post snippets of records....especially of a Surname or to query a word on a Cert.

Links to records can be posted
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: alig4 on Thursday 04 January 18 14:29 GMT (UK)
I make it Harman, not Hardman...

ah right

yeah that one does look Harman but the other said Hardman - could be herman  ??? what strange names regardless
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:36 GMT (UK)
No Will on http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:46 GMT (UK)
Just FYI

In | Loving Memory | of | ARCHABALD (stet) HARMAN MONTFORT | of Glensavage, Stillorgan | who died 5 March 1893, aged 52 years | "The Master is come and calleth for thee" | Also his son | WILLIAM BREWSTER MONTFORT | Died August 10th 1904 | "The Peace of God" | Also his widow |
ANNA E. P. R. DE MONTFORT | Died March 19th 1917 | "Blessed are the pure
in heart for | they shall see God.
Title: Re: Rathmines church records 1907
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 04 January 18 14:47 GMT (UK)
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/mt-jerome89.txt