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Title: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Saturday 09 December 17 22:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am seeking information on the parents and siblings of William George Rose b. 1810. Married 1842 to Margaret O'Connor. William died 1848 and was a Butcher in Collins Lane, Melbourne. William George and Margaret had at least four children: William (1843-`1843), James 1843-1843, William John 1844-1922, George 1846-1849 and Elizabeth Mary 1848-1890. Elizabeth married Michael Joseph Madden 1867, Essendon, Victoria. Any information would be appreciated. Regards Danny
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 09 December 17 23:02 GMT (UK)
So if im reading you right, the man died the year that he married and had kids with his wife over the subsequent 4 years?
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Saturday 09 December 17 23:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Pauline,  I corrected my error. Year of death was 1848
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 10 December 17 00:00 GMT (UK)
William George and Margaret had at least four children: William (1843-`1843), James 1843-1843, William John 1844-1922, George 1846-1849 and Elizabeth Mary 1848-1890.

There are a number of articles on Trove about William's death (as well as a few about his pork butchery business), if you haven't seen them I can post links if you like. This one does say though that he left a wife and 3 children, presumably William, George and Elizabeth who were living at the time of his death.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4764239
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Sunday 10 December 17 00:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I have seen the item you posted but appreciate your search.  I haven't seen any others and if you could post them that would be most appreciated.  Regards Danny
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 December 17 00:37 GMT (UK)
I think you will benefit from having this thread moved across to the Australia board.   I will ask moderator to move it there.

JM
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Sunday 10 December 17 00:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 10 December 17 00:48 GMT (UK)
Good idea JM, I was going to suggest moving the thread too.

Here are some other mentions of William on Trove:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4761212 - in trouble over a stolen pig, 23 Mar 1847
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4762194 - fined in relation to the business, 3 Sep 1847
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article226516113 - more trouble with the business (called "The Fever Factory"!) 30 Oct 1847
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4762963 - slaughtering license 11 Jan 1848
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article226354649 - inquest report (on "page 3") 15 July 1848
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4764281 - coroner's inquest 18 July 1848
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Sunday 10 December 17 00:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 11 December 17 03:04 GMT (UK)
Still doesn't help with where he came from, but here are some other items mentioning William:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article223150594 - a fire, 28 July 1847
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article223152999 - another account of the noxious nature of the business, 30 Oct 1847
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4763128 - boy employed by ROSE in trouble, 1 Feb 1848
(on "page 3")
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article226355378 - same boy in trouble again, 27 Mar 1848
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article223150880 - another account of the inquest 15 July 1848
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Monday 11 December 17 08:04 GMT (UK)
Thank you, great material.  We will work out where he came from

Regards

Danny
Title: Re: Rose
Post by: judb on Tuesday 12 December 17 08:02 GMT (UK)
Can only see one birth/death for a child of Michael MADDEN and Elizabeth nee ROSE

Birth
1871 #22528
Personal information
MADDEN, Michael James SexUnknown
Parents: Michael, Elisabeth (Rose)
Place of birth: COLL

Death
1875, #12730
MADDEN, Michael James, 4
Parents: Michael, Elizabeth (Rose) Place of birth FITZ
No place of death listed.

edit to add:
Elizabeth died in 1890
1890 #3550
MADDEN Elizth 43
Parents: Geo ROSE, Margt (Connor)
Place of death: Melb S

Judith

Title: Re: Rose
Post by: Killeavy on Tuesday 12 December 17 10:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks Judith, Michael Madden and Elizabeth Rose are my great great grandparents and had six children but only 3 survived childhood.  John,  Mary and Michael died of scarlet fever within 5 days of each other.  Michael and Elizabeth surviving children were Thomas Patrick (my great grandfather), William and Bridget Mary.  Regards Danny