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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: MylorMum on Tuesday 21 November 17 16:24 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am very new to this, so if I am asking stupid and wildly general questions, I apologise.
Following a recent death in my family I am distracting myself with trying to trace some parts of the family tree. I have come across the name of my great great grandmother - Sophia Amer. Thinking this was an unusual surname and she would be easy to trace, I have actually come up against a brick wall. I cannot find her birth certificate online or even the year of her birth. All I know is that she married Charles James Ariell Peter and had a child with him in 1860. At that time they were living in Mile End.
Does anyone know anything about Sophia? Siblings, origins, anything would be a help.
Many thanks.
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The marriage was in Dec 1/4 1843 St Martins.
PETER, DOROTHEA MARIA MARY ANNE AMER 1860 J 1/4 in MILE END OLD TOWN Vol 01C Page 515
1871 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB64-RNX
1861 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-LPXL
1851 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGN6-STS
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Hi
Welcome to rootschat
Charles James Ariell Peter
Sophia Amer
MARRIAGE 23 Dec 1843 - Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster
Charles was a watchmaker his father was Thomas Peter occ Surgeon
Sophias father was Joseph Amer occ Cow Keeper
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Greetings, and a warm welcome to Rootschat.
Family research can eat money if you are not careful, so it is worth checking all the free sites first. Rootschatters are brilliant at helping with this!
You may need to purchase a copy of the marriage certificate from the General Register Office. This should give the names and occupations of the fathers - which would enable you to track them on earlier censuses.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ is the place to start to find the reference for the marriage
then https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp - this is the GRO website - it's free to register and search, but buying a certificate does cost.
Bearing in mind that spelling varied, and that Sophia might have been a middle name not a first name, I think that finding her father's name is the way to start.
All the best
Philip
REVISED - Rosie99 has come up with the father's name and occupation, so now it's off to find Joseph Amer on a census or baptism
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The 1851 Census HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 186; Page: 33
Charles Peter 28
Sophia Peter 25
Jessie Peter 5
Charlotte Peter 1
If Sophia was born in 1826 then this was before birth certificates which started in July 1837
Stan
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The 1851 Census HO107; Piece: 1491; Folio: 186; Page: 33
Charles Peter 28
Sophia Peter 25
Jessie Peter 5
Charlotte Peter 1
If Sophia was born in 1826 then this was before birth certificates which started in July 1837
Stan
Birth registration of Jessie
PETER, JESSIE mmn AMER
1846 Dec Quarter in ST JAMES CLERKENWELL Volume 03 Page 99
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
You can use the GRO index to establish other children of the couple
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1861 Census RG 9; Piece: 294; Folio: 29; Page: 6
Charles Peter 38 Omnibus Conductor
Sophia Peter 35
John Peter 16
Jessie Peter 14
William Peter 12
Charlotte Peter 10
Hannah Peter 9
Charles Peter 7
Thomas Peter 2
Dorothea Peter 1
Stan
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1841
HO107 / 697 Book 9 Folio 20 Page33
She is with parents Joseph & Hannah
Mary Street Tower Hamlets
Joseph Amer 30 occ Cow Keeper
Hannah Amer 30
Sophia Amer 15
all born in the county
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Joseph & Hannah in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG51-TBQ
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Did they go to Canada, the 1881 Canadian census shows a family of Peter's living in Ontario
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1841
HO107 / 697 Book 9 Folio 20 Page33
She is with parents Joseph & Hannah
Mary Street Tower Hamlets
Joseph Amer 30 occ Cow Keeper
Hannah Amer 30
Sophia Amer 15
all born in the county
As a bit of historical trivia - Cow Keeper would not have meant that Joseph worked on a farm. In many parts of London there were people keeping one or two cows - they earned an income by selling milk to local residents.
Philip
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Charles was a watchmaker his father was Thomas Peter occ Surgeon
Sophias father was Joseph Amer occ Cow Keeper
The surgeon's son and the cowkeeper's daughter - what a great Victorian melodrama that would have made!
(Sorry, I'm starting to be silly now ;))
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Until the advent of the railways milk was supplied from cows actually kept in the towns, or just outside, by cow keepers, and the milk bought from them by Milk Dealers.
Stan
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I am awe struck and so grateful for your responses, this is all fascinating and very inspiring. I can see this could become an addictive habit!
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate you all taking the time to give me this information.
Very best,
Jane