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Title: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cathy_Aus on Thursday 16 November 17 21:08 GMT (UK)
Hi:)
Is anyone Researching Frain Family Please From Manchester Lancashire? Possibly connected to Dominick Frain and Wife Sarah Hannah(Nee Moore) from Manchester
Thanks
Cathy:)
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 16 November 17 21:27 GMT (UK)
Any dates to give us a start?
And have you checked the Surnames Interest Table? (There's a link at the bottom of every RC page)

AH! Found a marriage on FreeBMD:

March qtr 1902
Manchester Registration District     vol 8d, page 370

Fraine, Dominick
Moore, Sarah Hannah
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cathy_Aus on Thursday 16 November 17 23:02 GMT (UK)
Hi KGarrad:)
Thanks for your reply    Have found Dominick and Sara on 1939 Register Living at 89 Cannel Street , Manchester

In 1911 Census they were at 31 Kirby Street Ancoats Manchester

Theres a Death of a Norah Frain Aged  9 in Manchester in 1916 (so is this perhaps the Nora listed on 1911 Census)?
Also theres a Birth of a Nora Frain in 1919 In Manchester..Wonder if her parents were Dominic and sara?
 On a birth cert for a Daughter born to a Nora Frain in 1945  Noras Address is listed as the above Address for frains in 1939 Register   tho 2 people are blotted out in 1939 register  Could this perhaps be the nora born in 1919
thanks
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 17 November 17 07:52 GMT (UK)
Also theres a Birth of a Nora Frain in 1919 In Manchester..Wonder if her parents were Dominic and sara?

From FreeBMD:
Births, September qtr 1919
Manchester Registration District      vol 8d, page 331
Frain, Norah     Mother's maiden name: Moore

If you are trying to trace forwards, to living people, then you need to look at BMDs - FreeBMD is probably best, although LancashireBMD is also worthwhile looking at.

RootsChat has a "No living persons" policy, so we can't offer much help post WW2? :-\
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Mary8 on Friday 17 November 17 08:23 GMT (UK)
Send me a P.M as i have more on the Dominic Frain & family who died January 1943 age 62.

Mary :)
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: garstonite on Friday 17 November 17 09:13 GMT (UK)
records on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Dominic Henry Frain - filius Michael Frain & Jane (formerly Taaffee) b 1 Oct 1879
bap 19 Oct 1879 St Joseph, Ancoats,
Godparents: Dominic Francis Frain; Jane Fullham
Baptisms 1873 - 1883, Page 224
   
..........................................................................   same church

Dominicum Fraine m Saram Annam Moore 4 Jan 1902 St Joseph, Ancoats
Groom's Father: Michaelis Fraine
Bride's Father: Joannis Fraine
Witness: Bartholomeus Haferty; Catharinam Fraine
 
looks like Catholic Records ??
ADDED - I have just noticed the father of Sarah Moore is Joannis Fraine - John Fraine - so Sarah must have been married before ???  what do we think ??
looks like Sarah was born 2nd April 1884 and baptised 13th April 1884 in St Joseph ,Bury ...mother was Maria Caulfield - it states Mariae - so might be Mary / Marie or Maria ...
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cathy_Aus on Friday 17 November 17 20:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks K garrad , Garston and mary:)
Mary will send u a pm
Yes understand re Possible living persons and totally understand   Im trying to work back on this family as possible irish connection maybe thru fraine/frain
and this person who has this family we connect rather closely thru Dna  so another reason why im trying to track back on this family
Hmmm interestesting re sarah ann moore and Father was a Johannis Frain   And again possibly another Irish Connection
Thanks also for the info re Frain/Moore   Its starting to get very interesting indeed    Cheers  Cathy:)
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cathy_Aus on Friday 17 November 17 21:54 GMT (UK)
Hi K Garrad:)
Cant seem to find a Marriage for Sarah Ann(Hannah) Frain  And a Moore??
Also Looking for her on a 1891/1901 Census with father listed as john(johannis) No luck yet
Cathy:)
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Friday 17 November 17 22:06 GMT (UK)
Hi K Garrad:)
Cant seem to find a Marriage for Sarah Ann(Hannah) Frain  And a Moore??
Also Looking for her on a 1891/1901 Census with father listed as john(johannis) No luck yet
Cathy:)

Lancashire BMD shows as Fraine

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriagesearch.php
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 17 November 17 22:22 GMT (UK)
Hi K Garrad:)
Cant seem to find a Marriage for Sarah Ann(Hannah) Frain  And a Moore??
Also Looking for her on a 1891/1901 Census with father listed as john(johannis) No luck yet
Cathy:)

I think that maybe the father's name on the marriage is an error?
And that he should be a Moore :-\

Sarah's age on the 1911 census shows she was born c1885; she would have been 17 when she married in 1902, so unlikely to have been married before?
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Friday 17 November 17 22:38 GMT (UK)
There is a birth for Sarah H Moore, Manchester 1884 with a mmn Kirkman.
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 17 November 17 22:46 GMT (UK)
Sarah in 1901?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X924-N68

and 1891?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q5SS-Z2M
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Friday 17 November 17 23:11 GMT (UK)
Great find KG  :)

Ernest William Moore b Bolton 1874 mmn Kirkman.

Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Friday 17 November 17 23:13 GMT (UK)
Lancashire BMD

John Moore and Elizabeth Kirkman married 1871 at Holy Trinity Bolton le Moors.
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cowboy Dan on Monday 12 November 18 17:04 GMT (UK)
My great grandfather was one of several Dominick Frains I’ve found. MY DF was born about 1850 and I believe his father was John. I THINK I’ve read that he was from Gorteen. He married Mary Roper at Our Lady of the Holy Rosary in February 1877. My grandfather, Thomas Joseph Frain, was born in November and christened at Our Lady in December. He left for the U.S. in 1896.

The last record I find for them is the birth of my great uncle, Martin, in 1879. I don’t know if they died or left the country or what. Being Irish and Catholic, two children seems rather few.

Has anyone got a Dominick in their tree from Sligo who was born about 1850? I’m sure he was a namesake uncle to some of the other Dominick Frains I’ve seen.

If this is appropriate to post here, my GEDMatch is T491680. I’ve heard from a couple of people who say they’ve found a match, but it’s 7.4 generations back. That gets us back to the late eighteenth century, and I can't yet go back that far.

If anyone can help with information or leads, please let me know. I’ll share what I can with you if you ask.

Thanks. Have a great day! Stay safe.

Dan
Title: Re: Frain Family From Manchester Lancashire
Post by: Cowboy Dan on Saturday 07 March 20 19:22 GMT (UK)
Mary8, I tried to send you a message, but it did not send.

My great grandfather was Dominick FRAIN. I’ll be glad to share whatever you need to establish my bona fides.

I think they may have left for work in England about 1880, as I don’t find any mention of them after the baptism of their son Martin in December of 1879.

Hopefully, this agrees with the information you have.

I’m so hoping to hear from you.

Thanks. Stay safe!

Dan