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Title: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Saturday 11 November 17 15:09 GMT (UK)
At birminghamburialrecords.co.uk biirmingham city council has published a database of around 1.5 million burials and cremations at municipal sites across the city, showing month and year of burial/cremation. Unfortunately they do not include precise dates and the records only extend to a single forename but it is still an extremely useful resource.

It does not include burials within church grounds
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Jool on Saturday 11 November 17 16:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for posting this Keith!  I have just looked at that site and found the burial of an ancestor I have been searching for for a long time.  :D
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: dawnsh on Saturday 11 November 17 19:46 GMT (UK)
I've just done a free search, the record I wanted was available as a digital download for £5.

this is going to be such a valuable resource for the chatters here.

https://www.birminghamburialrecords.co.uk/
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: sleepybarb on Monday 13 November 17 14:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you Keitht , because of your post I’ve broken down two bricks this morning I have found the cremation for my Dads first wife and the burial of my Mum’s younger brother.
  Barb
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: rayard on Monday 13 November 17 15:03 GMT (UK)
Many thanks from me too!!  It will be very useful.
rayard.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Wednesday 15 November 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Glad to be of service

It has also broken down a couple of brick walls for me.

Keith
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Greenvale on Wednesday 15 November 17 12:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the post, very helpful to me.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Bearnan on Wednesday 15 November 17 14:28 GMT (UK)
And thanks from me too!
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Brummygirl on Wednesday 15 November 17 20:08 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, i have found things i'v been looking for for ages
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: mirl on Wednesday 15 November 17 22:46 GMT (UK)
Really great resource.  Thanks for putting it out there.

One problem I found is that I noticed from a general search that there are heaps of relatives buried at Warstone Lane.  However, if I search for an individual or a surname at that cemetery specifically I get nothing.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Thursday 16 November 17 00:39 GMT (UK)
That's an interesting comment. Too late now but I'll check it out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Jool on Thursday 16 November 17 10:20 GMT (UK)
Really great resource.  Thanks for putting it out there.

One problem I found is that I noticed from a general search that there are heaps of relatives buried at Warstone Lane.  However, if I search for an individual or a surname at that cemetery specifically I get nothing.

I have just searched a relative by full name with no cemetery and he appears.  If I search just the surname I get lots of results at all the cemeteries.  If search with the relevant cemetery I get no results.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Thursday 16 November 17 11:00 GMT (UK)
I've just had exactly the same experience with searching at a specific cemetery. It is certainly strange. I'll report it to the council's tech guys, who may or may not do anything about it.

I would expect that searching with just the surname would bring up multiple rsponses

Keith
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Jool on Thursday 16 November 17 11:11 GMT (UK)
I would expect that searching with just the surname would bring up multiple rsponses

Keith

Yes, it is useful to just search with just surname in case the Christian name in spelled incorrectly, but it would be useful to narrow it down to one cemetery.

Thanks Keith for offering to report it to the tech guys, we'll wait (probably a long time) and see if they fix the issue.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Jool on Saturday 18 November 17 13:49 GMT (UK)
Hi, I've just been on this website again and it seems the search problem is now fixed  :D
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Saturday 18 November 17 14:11 GMT (UK)
Ye gods. My influence knows no bounds.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Jool on Saturday 18 November 17 15:05 GMT (UK)
Ye gods. My influence knows no bounds.

Well done Keith  ;)
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Steven1966 on Monday 20 November 17 19:31 GMT (UK)
I became aware of this after seeing the news review on the "Birmingham Channel" (Freeview channel 7) only last night, within 10 minutes I had downloaded the 1955 cremation record (Yardley, Birmingham) for my Great Grandfathers, sister Emily White of Hansons Bridge Road. The last of that generation to be accounted for. Strangely, when my father contacted Yardley Crematorium about 18 months ago, although they looked they couldn't find anything. However, well worth the money spent. I can see this resource been well used by me, still a fare number of peoples unaccounted for.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: rayard on Sunday 26 November 17 14:56 GMT (UK)
This database has been very useful and I don't want to be critical, but I'm having problems with short surnames when I don't have a date of death. I.e. it gives all results of longer surnames which include the letters. I have tried putting "" but this doesn't work. On some websites there is a box to tick "exact"
rayard.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Sunday 26 November 17 22:53 GMT (UK)
I've experienced the same problem but it hasn't given me much trouble because I have been using the site to locate burials where I already have the death registration record. I would personally be a lot happier if the records extended to two or more forenames, which would eliminate the occasional experience of finding two burials or cremations of similar names within the same quarter.

The database is by no means perfect but it is light years ahead of anything we've had before.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: rayard on Monday 27 November 17 14:57 GMT (UK)
It is  good Keitht and I didn't want to appear ungrateful!!
Thanks again, it has been a great help.
rayard.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Wednesday 29 November 17 20:11 GMT (UK)
No gratitude due to me. I merely reported the site's existence after having been shown it by someone else.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Brummygirl on Thursday 30 November 17 18:23 GMT (UK)
This website is a fantastic resource
I was confused over Kings Norton Cemetery and Old Kings Norton Cemetery, so i emailed the site to ask about it. So if anyone else has the same problem/confusion here is their reply

The history of the Old Kings Norton Cemeteries are that the Kings Norton Burial Board were responsible for administering two cemeteries prior to 1911. One was Brandwood End Cemetery and the other was Lodge Hill Cemetery. Both cemeteries have old registers that show Kings Norton Burial Board on them. When the registers were transcribed, the Old Kings Norton Burial Board records for Brandwood End Cemetery were recorded as Brandwood End Cemetery. However, when the old Kings Norton Burial Board records for Lodge Hill Cemetery were transcribed they were listed as Old Kings Norton. This is something that has been picked up since the database has been released for public access. In order to avoid confusion, we are currently working with our supplier to amend the Old Kings Norton records to show them as Lodge Hill Cemetery on the database for future use. There will be a short period in the interim when the old Lodge Hill Cemetery records are shown as Old Kings Norton prior to this update.

Hope this helps
Kindest regards
Brummygirl
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Keitht on Saturday 09 December 17 20:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks Brummygirl, I must admit that I had wondered about this point myself.
Title: Re: Birmingham burials and cremations
Post by: Bojalu on Tuesday 06 February 18 00:42 GMT (UK)

What we have to remember the site is for cemeteries .
If you are unable to find your ancestor they may be buried in a family plot in a  church yard ( Parish Records ) rather than a council cemetery.

The BMSGH -Birmingham & Midland Society of Genealogy & Heraldry
( now called Midland Ancestors )   volunteers transcribed the burial records  of Witton Cemetery, Handsworth Cemetery , Key Hill Cemetery & Warstone Lane Cemetery  to purchase  sometime ago.
 You can purchased the burial records from the BMSGH shop.
 Support your local Family History Society .http://bmsgh-shop.org.uk/BIRM-Cemeteries

Key Hill Cemetery & Warstone Lane Cemetery .
For help in locating a grave  or to find how many are buried in a plot  at either Key Hill Cemetery or Warstone Lane Cemetery in Hockley, Birmingham's Jewellery Quarter contact the
 Friends of Key Hill Cemetery & Warstone Lane Cemetery .
 The only group to maintain the cemeteries and restore headstones

Blogging website is work in progress. https://friendsofkeyhillcemeterywarstonelanecemetery.wordpress.com/