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Title: Image restoration help please.
Post by: MrMDstreet on Saturday 04 November 17 17:51 GMT (UK)
Hello, I have just found this site by accident after doing some Google searches to try and do some image restoration myself.

The images have been damaged with biro some time ago and I have just found the Content Aware tool in Photoshop. I have had a go at repairing the images and was wondering if anyone would like to have a go also?

Any help and pointers will also be appreciated.
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: japeflakes on Saturday 04 November 17 21:07 GMT (UK)
starter:
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: japeflakes on Saturday 04 November 17 21:33 GMT (UK)
The other one is  beyond me sorry: Leave it for the experts
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Handypandy on Saturday 04 November 17 21:51 GMT (UK)
Beyond me too.... not in the best of nick even without the biro marks..
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Trishanne on Saturday 04 November 17 22:02 GMT (UK)
Here's the first one, I've yet to have a look at the 2nd. I will let you know.
Pat
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: McGroger on Sunday 05 November 17 01:44 GMT (UK)
My try, and welcome to Rootschat, MrMDstreet.
Cheers, Peter.
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: stsearcher on Sunday 05 November 17 04:13 GMT (UK)
Here is another option for you.

I don't know that I have any pointers for you, I wasn't able to restore the pen photo well at all (at least not without spending hours on it). However, I can let you know what I did with my attempt. Affinity Photo is the program I use and the magic wand tool comes in handy. Then layers of filters to get a cleaner finish.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: McGroger on Sunday 05 November 17 06:52 GMT (UK)
My try at the other one.

Regarding pointers, if you let us know your level of experience - perhaps post some work you‘ve done and tell of your concerns - restorers on here might be able to offer some advice.

My basic suggestions: learn each and every tool in your program, and practice, practice, practice. You’re probably aware that a similar result can be achieved using completely different tools. Only experience can tell you which tool is best for the job in front of you. There are lots of free tutorials online, and the archive of restores on Rootschat is a wonderful resource for practicing your skills. If you learn from what other restorers on here have done, without consciously competing with their efforts, you’ll gradually develop your own style. (I don’t think I’ve got to that stage yet!)

Cheers, Peter.
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: loord74 on Sunday 05 November 17 12:22 GMT (UK)
one from me
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Trishanne on Sunday 05 November 17 13:34 GMT (UK)
Here is my attempt at the 2nd photo. Unfortunately with all the faces scribbled on, it was not easy to pick up features.  As I have a very simple photoshop version, I basically use just the clone tool.
Pat
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Mike Morrell on Sunday 05 November 17 14:40 GMT (UK)
Restoring photos with biro scribbled across faces/eyes is a difficult challenge, at least for me. I hope the faces in my attempt are still recognizable at a distance but I haven't been able to restore the original quality of the faces, at least not without spending much more time on it. Feel free to improve on this!

I started learning about photo restoration about 6 months back - with a lot of help from other restorers here. I don't have much time for it at the moment but I'm sure I'll pick it up again soon.

There's a Rootschat 'how to' subforum with useful tips and links at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/resources-tips-tutorials/ (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/resources-tips-tutorials/). It's also a good place to post any questions you have.

You can find (via Google) some useful video's on Youtube that show basic restoration techniques (patching, cloning, scratch/spot removal, etc.).

If you're willing to pay for tutorials, take a look at what Lynda.com has to offer: https://www.lynda.com/Restoration-training-tutorials/1358-0.html?previousCategory=70 (https://www.lynda.com/Restoration-training-tutorials/1358-0.html?previousCategory=70)
You can subscribe to Lynda.com on a monthly basis.

There also some books (and e-books) on restoration. One of the most comprehensive is 'Digital Restoration from Start to Finish' by Ctein. It's 450 page step-by-step guide on pretty much all aspects of photo restoration. The author is a professional restorer and he/she goes into some 'advanced techniques' using selections, masks, filters, etc. to minimize the 'manual work'. It's probably best to be comfortable using the basic techniques before delving into the advanced ones!

But there's no substitute for 'learning by doing'. And for looking at the great results here and figuring out how they were achieved - and by asking the restorers. Different restorers work in different ways and most types of damage can be corrected using different tools. So there's never just one way of restoring a photo. It's good to try out different tools and learn what works best for in each situation.

While learning how to restore photos, I also learned a whole more about how to use Photoshop too!

Good luck!
Mike








Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 05 November 17 14:55 GMT (UK)
Some good advice from Mike but I bought the book he recommends and I felt that I had wasted my money £25 at the time...even as a restorer with over 10 years experience, I found this book to be too technical and biased towards the full Photoshop rather than Elements which is what I use. It was also very repetitive and padded out. It's a great hobby but as  with all hobbies, it takes a lot of practise and patience.
Enjoy the experience and have fun.
Carol 
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 05 November 17 15:04 GMT (UK)
Agree about the Ctein book, Carol. I think it's a waste of money, even with the full CS version.  I much  prefer Katrin Eismann's books and online instructions, although I've not looked at it for a long time - bought it when Photoshop was CS3. I now use help, if necessary, on my CC 2015.5 version.

Best thing to do is practise (as we all have over the many years we've been here and before!) and pick up tips from as many sources as possible  :)

PS - I am attempting the second one but it might take me a while - I only do one hour at a time  :)

Added - the Grab below shows how far I've got - trying to build the faces up bit by bit.


Gadget
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: jc26red on Sunday 05 November 17 23:29 GMT (UK)
one from me too

Jenny

a little rusty but it must be over 6 years since I did my last restore. :o
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: MrMDstreet on Monday 06 November 17 09:46 GMT (UK)
I can't believe how awesome everyone has been with this. Each attempt has been fantastic! Completely forgot that I had uploaded the torn corner version of the second photo but what has been accomplished has been pretty cool.

Thank you to everyone who has given pointers etc. I will get a bit more practice in but you have all far surpassed my expectations. I have been dabbling in photo restoration on and off for about 5 years. I was given these pictures by my mum about 4 years ago after her dad had passed away. She will be very happy with the results.

Again thank you all.
Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Gadget on Monday 06 November 17 12:02 GMT (UK)
I did say that I'd be a while  :)


Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: Gadget on Monday 06 November 17 12:06 GMT (UK)
and one with a bit of texture and a more selenium tone.

Title: Re: Image restoration help please.
Post by: MrMDstreet on Monday 06 November 17 12:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your hard work, it is greatly appreciated. Wasn't really expecting this much time and effort to be put in by people.