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Title: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: lin46 on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:17 GMT (UK)
Catherine Connolly born Manchester 1877 father William connolly shoe maker mother ? Only got 1881 census nothing before. Richard Connolly grandfather shoe maker. Grandmother Julia father William widower Catherine age 4 . I want to find out who Catherine's mother was any help would be great thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: Ayashi on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:26 GMT (UK)
The GRO website gives us four immediate possibilities for her birth with 1877 +/- 2 years-

1875 - mmn KEARNS
1876 - mmn DALEY
1876 - mmn HERON
1878 - mmn HOOLEY

Not immediately seeing an obvious marriage.

I also looked at deaths 1879 +/- 2 years for Manchester, looking for a woman of the right age but I can only see infants and people over 50...

Edit- with alternative spellings, a few possibilities:
CONLEY, MARGARET       29 
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 213
CONNELLY, BRIDGET       28     
GRO Reference: 1879  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 167
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:33 GMT (UK)
The 1881 census shows Catherine as a granddaughter of Richard "Conolly", the head of household.  It doesn't tell you which of Richard's offspring was Catherine's parent - it may or may not have been the widowed William.

1881: RG11/3980/100/2
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:41 GMT (UK)
The GRO website gives us four immediate possibilities for her birth with 1877 +/- 2 years-

1875 - mmn KEARNS
1876 - mmn DALEY
1876 - mmn HERON
1878 - mmn HOOLEY


There is a Catholic baptism for the 1878 one, 28 July 1878 at St Joseph, Ancoats (born 16 July).

Daughter of Patrick Connolly and Catherine nee Hooley.  Witnesses: Charles McCann, Bridget Sheridan.

It's annotated to say that she married John Keenan at St Patrick's Church on 1 August 1917.

(Extracted: Lan-OPC, in Latin).
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: Ayashi on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks AVM, I suspected given what little I could see of the census, unfortunately I've been booted out of my Ancestry account and can't remember the login  ::)

Edit-
Marriage- William CONLEY to Ellen HERON 1875 Manchester (can't confirm that they married each other, but this could be the pairing).
No obvious deaths 1877-1881 for an Ellen as yet.
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: lin46 on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:52 GMT (UK)
Catherine married Charles Henry Howard st Patrick's Catholic church Manchester 1902 father William connolly shoemaker.
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:55 GMT (UK)
Marriage- William CONLEY to Ellen HERON 1875 Manchester (can't confirm that they married each other, but this could be the pairing).

Good find! LancashireBMD confirms they did marry each other (Manchester Reg Office or registrar attended, so consistent with a civil or Catholic ceremony).
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: Ayashi on Wednesday 01 November 17 18:57 GMT (UK)
Not convinced they are her parents though.

My original four birth possibilities were without spelling variations... now looking up some more.

Edit again (I don't like double posting!)
Lancashire BMD has a death for an Ellen CONLEY aged 36 in Wigan (1879) which might be worth consideration.
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 01 November 17 19:11 GMT (UK)
Or:

Ellen Connolly aged 24, Sep qtr 1877 Ashton

Ellen Connolley aged 27, Sep qtr 1880 Prestwich
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: Ayashi on Wednesday 01 November 17 19:14 GMT (UK)
Ah, the delights of spelling  ::)
Title: Re: Catherine Connolly born about 1877
Post by: lin46 on Thursday 02 November 17 05:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone. On the ×××× census it says her date of birth is 4th july 1877 but that could be wrong. Her father and grandparents came from ireland. But the are on the 1871 census in england. So they came over before her birth. ???