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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: jkhansen on Saturday 28 October 17 15:15 BST (UK)
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Hi
Please can one decipher a couple of words for me -
X William Dick, Horse couper in Portsburgh & Ann Buchannan Relict?
Question 1. Not sure is the right spelling 'Relict' - meaning that Ann Buchannan was a 'widow' when she married William Dick?
3. Is the next line after the word, Relict part of this marriage or?
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James ...... Malt milne? maker in Easter Causway & Margaret
Mcdonald there daughter of William Mcdonald .... ......
* is added at he bottom of page
James Ballantine's irregular marriage
Question 2. Does the word 'horse couper means that he is a horse-dealer?
William Dick's first wife died approx. in 1766, but yet to find proof of Ann Buchannan had being married before.
This marriage took place in 1768, St Cuthbert's.
Thanks
JKH
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For occupations this is a useful site
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/glossary
Horse-cooper/horse-cuper/horse-couper One who buys and sells horses and ponies
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I think "Relict of" can only apply to Ann Buchannan. The space might indicate that they didn't know whose relict (widow) she was. However, the note at the bottom, if it clearly relates to this entry, suggests that she previously had an irregular marriage with James Ballantine, who has died.
If it was an irregular marriage, I think you're unlikely to find a direct record of it, though there might possibly be references in kirk sessions records and the like, where questions of morality etc were often discussed. Others more familiar with Scottish records might have a better idea than I do.
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Yes it says 'relict' - the widow of................
But no name is entered after the word relict.
The next line is a new entry for James Purcel (I think. Look at the way the writer forms a 'P' in 'Paul Robertson' in the third entry.)
Without seeing the part about 'irregular marriage with James Ballantine' - not on the clip you posted, to see what it relates to, it's impossible to say.
An 'irregular marriage' was one made not in the accepted 'kirk'. Not necessarily one that had anything dodgy about it!
As arthurk says, you are unlikely to find any record of it.
Irregular and common-law marriages. ... An irregular marriage could result from mutual agreement, by a public promise followed by consummation, or by cohabitation and repute. All but the last of these were abolished by the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1939, from 1 July 1940.
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Sorry, mistake
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William DICK Horse couper in Portsburgh & Ann BUCHANNAN Relict
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James Percil Malt milne maker in Easter Lausey & Margaret
McDonald there daughter of William McLena Rd lint dresser
Maltmill-maker = One who makes mills for preparing malt
Lint dresser/lintdresser = Flax-dresser
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James PURCEL - not the right letters for 'Percil'
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Without seeing the part about 'irregular marriage with James Ballantine' - not on the clip you posted, to see what it relates to, it's impossible to say.
An 'irregular marriage' was one made not in the accepted 'kirk'. Not necessarily one that had anything dodgy about it!
As arthurk says, you are unlikely to find any record of it.
Irregular and common-law marriages. ... An irregular marriage could result from mutual agreement, by a public promise followed by consummation, or by cohabitation and repute. All but the last of these were abolished by the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1939, from 1 July 1940.
Not much to see - just this is written at the bottom side of the page
* James Ballantine's
irregular marriage....
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William DICK Horse couper in Portsburgh & Ann BUCHANNAN Relict
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James Purcel Malt milne maker in Easter Lausey? & Margaret
McDonald there daughter of William McDonald lint dresser
Lausey? - can't read this or understand it but Easter could be what we understand as Eastern
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Not much to see - just this is written at the bottom side of the page
* James Ballantine's
irregular marriage....
Hmm... that note appears alongside another entry with a Relict, which has a very similar asterisk in it. The most likely inference (to me) is that the note and this later entry belong together - or does the later relict have a husband named, which would exclude that possibility? (The snip you've provided is cut off after the word Relict.)
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Easter Causey?
Skoosh.
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3. Is the next line after the word, Relict part of this marriage or?
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James ...... Malt milne? maker in Easter Causway & Margaret
Mcdonald there daughter of William Mcdonald .... ......
NO...James Purcel & Margaret McDonald are a separate marriage.
William Dick & Ann Buchannan are the parents of whoever is written above their names i.e. no connection with the marriage of James Purcel.
'maker in Easter Causway & Margaret Mcdonald there daughter'...
The 'there' is referring to Margaret also being in Easter Causey
The 2nd image you've posted doesn't tell us anything as we don't know if there's a name after it or a blank?
Without seeing what's after the 2nd 'Relict' we can't tell what the asterisk is likely to be pertaining to?
Annie
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Well done Annie & the "in Easter Causeway!" indicates a tenant.
Skoosh.