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Title: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: The Engineer on Saturday 21 October 17 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have an Irish ancestor of my wife. - 2nd great grandfather - who has been a long term "brick wall" in my research.

He is shown on later UK and India records as John Whelan born c1827 in Rathvilla, Co Offaly, Ireland.  I have no parentage or siblings for him.  I did find a record for his marriage  to Frances BEEBY of Castle Donington at Naas, Co Kildare, in 1858.  By this time John WHELAN is in the 5th Royal Irish Dragoons and is stationed at the Curragh, Co Kildare, not far from Naas.  John died in army service, out in India, in 1868.

I would love to find any family for John WHELAN - parents and other ancestors, and also any siblings.

Hoping someone may be able to help with advice or information.

Regards,
Garry
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 11:40 BST (UK)
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0704
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 21 October 17 11:49 BST (UK)
Where did you find a record of the marriage?
There is a marriage cert you could get for €4
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kx9/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kxa/

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 12:03 BST (UK)
Depends on his Religion, which hasn't been given.  I posted RC registers just in case they were RC
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: dathai on Saturday 21 October 17 15:29 BST (UK)
From a small tree on Family Search this appears to be their daughter
Hawkins/Whelan
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-278-3-4-006
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 21 October 17 15:38 BST (UK)
IF they were R.C. you can ignore the link I posted earlier!!
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: myluck! on Saturday 21 October 17 16:21 BST (UK)
Civil Marriage Record is not on line yet 1858 Naas Q1 V8 P345

There is a transcription
John WHELAN Newbridge Barracks aged 28
Private 5th Royal Irish Lancers
Father John WHELAN a carpenter of Dublin
to
Fanny BEEBY same address aged 21
no occupation
Father Thomas BEEBY of Castledonnington, Leicestershire

Witnesses James and Mary Jane YEATMAN
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 21 October 17 16:42 BST (UK)
A Maria Whelan, father John a carpenter married in Dublin in 1849. Worth noting for the moment.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kxd/
Title: Re: John Whelan born 1827, Rathvilla
Post by: The Engineer on Sunday 22 October 17 14:10 BST (UK)
Thanks to all,
I now have a father's name and profession!  All the links you have sent I will promise to explore over the coming days and weeks and hopefully it will reveal more for me.  I am a bit slow as I am limited in my cognitive function and concentration level, I have to wait for good periods.....