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Title: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: 2backrooks on Thursday 19 October 17 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi all
I'm looking for a construction date for Barbieston Farm near Drongan. I think its in the 1850's era but unsure
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Istrice on Thursday 19 October 17 23:18 BST (UK)
Hi,
The attached link to a John Ainslie map 1745-1828 (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400286) (http://(http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400286)) shows a Carbistoun in the vicinity of Barbieston Farm which is shown on later OS maps.  Barbieston shows on the 1857 6" OS map (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74425821) (http://(http://maps.nls.uk/view/74425821)) and appears to be reasonably well established at this date.  The build date is therefor difficult to determine without searching Sasine records or other historical documents.
Have you tried to contact the present occupants of the farm; there may be a date stone on the building, or they may have access to the Title Deeds.

Good Hunting
Istrice
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Iandj on Thursday 19 October 17 23:34 BST (UK)
Looks like it may be a little earlier than the 1850s. The OS Name Book for Ayrshire describes Barbieston in 1855-1857 as a farmstead with a thatched house, offices, a workshop and several cottages. Though the tax records seem to describe a farm at Barbieston in around 1797-98 and probably earlier.

Regards
Ian
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: 2backrooks on Saturday 21 October 17 20:21 BST (UK)
Thanks folks really interesting info I'm currently living here and have spoke to the original farmer who lived here. Its been in the family at least 150 years but know nothing prior to this. Its not a farm anymore, farm and outbuildings have been turned into 5 cottages. Date on home report I'm sure was 1850. But 1797 seems promising/
The os map links don't work
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Iandj on Saturday 21 October 17 21:27 BST (UK)
If you go to ScotlandsPlaces - https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk (https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk) - and search for Barbieston a number of items come up. Apparently the ruins of Barbieston Castle are somewhere nearby though I haven't found its location on any maps.

Ian
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Istrice on Saturday 21 October 17 21:40 BST (UK)
Sorry about the references.
If you delete the brackets, and delete the "http://" from each of the references, it should take you to the maps referred to.

Further to the other information posted re tax records, Barbieston is mentioned in the Ayrshire Land Tax Rolls for 1759 (Vol 4, p21), and also in the Horse Tax Rolls for 1790.

Istrice
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: JueC on Friday 22 February 19 17:31 GMT (UK)
In 1851 census my 4th Great Uncle, Andrew Bruce, was recorded as being: (Servant) Farm Lab aged 15 at Barbieston Farm, Coylton. I'm presuming it's one and the same place as Drongan is only down the road but ...
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 22 February 19 17:47 GMT (UK)
You can't assume that a building shown on an old map or mentioned in an old document is the same building as stands on its site today. Many older buildings were replaced in the 19th and 20th centuries and the process still continues. You have to look at the architectural style and details and try to work it out from those. Have ypu got a photograph of the house?
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: 2backrooks on Sunday 07 April 19 18:32 BST (UK)
No idea how to post a pic but Google Barbieston Farm Drongan and zoopla has one. It was refurbished in 2002 and all the out building turned into houses.
Title: Re: Barbieston Farm (Drongan)
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 07 April 19 18:42 BST (UK)
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3980603