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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) => Topic started by: jimdb on Thursday 19 October 17 21:22 BST (UK)
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My great-great-grandmother, Margaret RAEBURN, was married to David Waddell in Canongate Parish, Edinburgh, on 16 May 1835. Margaret was the daughter of "James Raeburn, joiner in Dunbar". From various records, both in Scotland and the USA, she was born 9 Dec 1809 in Dunbar. The couple is found in Clarkson Parish, Lanark, in 1841, and Carluke Parish, Lanark, in 1851. She and David immigrated to Ohio in 1855. Naming tradition would suggest her parents are Alexander and Mary, but we know her father is James. There is question as to the validity of her birthdate. No record seems to exist in the OPRs, thus I can't take this line back any further. Can anyone identify her family? Were her parents James Raeburn and Mary Reid?
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Waddell is a common Monklands, Lanarkshire name so Clarkston, Airdrie fits!
Skoosh.
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Hi jimdb
Welcome to RootsChat :)
Were David Waddle's parents and his birth this one here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTG4-N43 ?
The children showing for them on censuses (1841/1851) include:
1841 - Gavin aged 5 and Mary aged 4.
1851 - Gavin aged 14, John aged 7 and David aged 1.
They look to have lost lots children along the way :-\ Can't see a reference to a son Alexander for them so far.
Margaret certainly shows a birth place in Dunbar. There are two couples showing as having children in Dunbar at that time named James and Mary. The two Marys are Hogg and Reid.
Monica
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The 1841 census shows a James Rayburn in Dunbar, working as a Joiner. Wonder if this could be a brother to Margaret...or a red herring?!
James Raeburn 50
Cath Rachun 40
Marjory Raeburn 70
Address: High Street East Side Bambury Close, Dunbar
The 1841 census is the most limited in terms of detail. Ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years and no relationships were normally shown within households.
Monica
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The 1851 census has them not ageing very much in ten years!
James Raeburn 50 joiner b. Dunbar
Cathrine Raeburn 44 wife
Address: High Street, Dunbar
You could follow this James through to his death and check the certificate online for his parents' names (if he died after 1855 and the start of official registration in Scotland). BMDs available on pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Monica
ADDED: There is this possible birth index entry for him https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTTY-Q78
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To Skoosh and MonicaL, your replies are most appreciated. The Waddells, I have a pretty good handle on them. James Raeburn/Mary Hogg seem to be an older generation. James Raeburn/Mary Reid are my primary targets. They had a son James Jr. They also had a son Alexander. And, searching my notes, I believe they had a son George (but no birth/christening date given). The James of the 1841 and 51 censuses is probably who I'm after. Just as likely though he may be a red herring. No imagination when it came to naming the kids :) To actually prove who Margaret's parents were, I may have to go to the probate route. (That may be kinda iffy). I've reviewed the parish records pretty much in depth and am surprised that they may well be either incomplete, or the births not reported. Again, thanks.
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To Monica: Yes, David Waddell's parents were Gavin and Elizabeth. There was an Alexander Waddell, 1841-44. The list is available at: www.ballsplace.com. The list was from an unpublished compilation done years back by a relative. I think it came from a Bible record which I've never found. If so, The numerous children who died young was probably the reason for coming to America. David though had brothers who went to Canada. I have a different James and Catherine from the 1841 and 51 census. He was a "sawyer". What you show makes much more sense. Thus the confusion. Thanks (I think :))
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You say that David Waddell and wife Margaret (Raeburn) left Scotland in 1855 for Ohio but I find them in New York in 1861 and 1871??
Annette
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Not so. They are in Carluke, Lanark in 1851, arrive in NY on 15 Jun 1855 aboard the "Glance" out of Glasgow, and are in Youngstown, Ohio in 1860. They arrived with son John. Gavin had preceded them. The other children had died.
Thanks for your note.
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Your James Raeburn is indeed the son of James Raeburn and Mary Reid. I taken a picture of his brother Alexander's headstone at Dunbar Parish Churchyard and added it with transcription and a little research to the Find-A-Grave website. Alexander was a ship master which may be an indication to how James became a joiner. (ship building/repair perhaps.) To date I haven't discovered their parents grave. But I am slowly working through all the cemetery to add to the Find-a-grave website because it's free to everyone, and easy to use.
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I have come across David Waddell and Margaret Raeburn/Rayburn before. Among the notes I have on them is the following
The following riddle was located loose within the pages of a family Bible. This hand-written note was found attached to a sermonette clipping which had been printed in Edinburgh, Scotland.
in one house in the perish of Beith Lives
three mothers and three daughters two
Grand mothers and a Grategrandmother
two Grand daugthers and a Grategrand
daugther a widow a wife and two
unmaried persons yet all thes ar
comprised in four indiviuels
This riddle is presented with the original punctuation and spelling. It indicates that either the Waddells or Rayburns may have originally been from Beith Parish located within the counties of Ayr and Renfrew. [Jim Ball, http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Waddell/1997-12/0883519627]
I have been unable to determine who his father Gavin Waddell was, apart from the following
1853, May 14. Gavin Waddell, Labourer, Waterloo, aged 89 years. [Shotts Parish Register, burial records] which indicates that he must have been born about 1763/1764. This Gavin and his wife Elizabeth Russell had nine children that I know of, and I have a few snippets of information about four of them apart from David.
James, born 1801, had a son named David and a grandson, but I have never been able to find any more about any of them. They may have emigrated.
Elizabeth married Daniel Gold and died in 1866.
Agnes married James Cooper and died in 1878.
William died unmarried in 1870.