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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: mbee on Sunday 15 October 17 15:33 BST (UK)
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I have been doing my family tree for many years but keep going back checking names. I check between census entries and births/deaths details. This is a strange one. I have Michael Mattimore in Boothstown Lancashire 1851. Cannot find the family in 1861 but he died in Oct/Dec 1865 Westleigh. Wife Catherine died 1863. Now in 1861 I do find a George married to Catherine in Westleigh with children of same name. There is a death for George and he died in October 1865. I think this may be the same person. Also have Timothy Mattimore in 1851 in Boothstown not on any other census year, but there is a family of Edward(Shady) Mattimore all the children have the same names so I am thinking Timothy became Edward. Does this sound feasible. I have spent hours on this - there are no deaths for the ones that disappeared and it is very odd that both have children with same names born around same time
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What you have not said is ages, birthplaces, how many kids, whether you have checked mmn on the gro indexes...
Why dont you transcribe the census that you are looking at?
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The ages aren't quite right for George and Catherine to be the same couple are they?
Michael is 33 in 1851 Kitty is 33 children Bridget 10 Margaret 8 Teddy 1
George is 35 in 1861 Catherine is 40 children Mary 8 John 5
if I have the right census none of the children appear twice
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I see one death in Dec 1865 Michael Mattimoro not one for George - how is the surname written?
Michael age 44
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Right I think I'm seeing the link
Margaret Duddy nee Mattimore in 1871 has living with her
John Mattimore 15
Mary Mattimore 18
brother in law and sister in law to James Duddy head
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Bridget Mattimore married John Smith in 1857
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Also have Timothy Mattimore in 1851 in Boothstown not on any other census year, but there is a family of Edward(Shady) Mattimore all the children have the same names so I am thinking Timothy became Edward. Does this sound feasible.
He's down as Teddy on ancestry so that would be fine for Edward.
Who do you have for his wife?
Edward Mattimore marriage 1889 Leigh to Sarah or Frances
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Firstly Millipede thank you. You are correct that Margaret married James Duddy and her brother and sister lived with her in 1871 and I can see Mary and John on the later censuses. My problem is 1861 I cant find anything for them but George and Catherine appear with children John and Mary of the same age. I have checked the bmd and I can't find two lots of children in Westleigh which is where they lived. I have found the deaths for Michael in 1865 and Catharine 1863 on the bmd. I did not find and entry on bmd for George but what I did find was an entry for a coal mine death for George in October 1865 (same as Michael). this is why I think Michael and George are the same person. I realise the ages are different but I have come across this before. With regard to Timothy, as you have seen from the 1851 census in Boothstown there are many children with the same name and ages as Edward(Shady) in 1861 and 1871 when Timothy has disappeared. So I think Timothy is Edward and Michael is George and they are brothers. I have not yet found the marriage of Edward in 1889 so thanks for that
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Edward married Frances Hayes Pomfret in 1889 Leigh Register Office or Registrar attended.
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There is a birth registered in 1856 John Mattimore mother's name Grady
All the other births about that time seem to have variations of McNullity as maiden names.
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Timothy died 1854 aged 3 GRO index
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John 1855 aged 2
Mary 1853 aged 1
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Thanks for the responses. The Macanulty children are Timothys. The Grady children are Michaels. I ended up with Catharine Grady married to both Michael and George on my tree which is where I started to look at it again and likewise I had Margaret McNulty married to both Timothy and Edward because I traced the children through BMD. I didnt have Edwards marriage so got that now, thanks
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There is a marriage for Timothy Matimore and Margaret Mack in 1850 Leigh Register Office or Registrar attended.
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Many thanks to everyone for the responses, I am going to order some certificates to clarify the fathers names