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Title: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Ellen Blackham on Wednesday 04 October 17 10:06 BST (UK)
I have a Walter Thomas Stearn who died 8th October 1957 & his wife Mary Hetta Stearn who died in 1955. They had a daughter Florence Mary (Scholer) who died 24th May 1951 & wondered if they are all buried together.
I was wondering if there is  someone going to the Waverley Cemetery in Sydney? that might be able to check if there is a headstone if there is to photograph & email it to me.

I have contacted the Waverley Cemtery who tell me Walter Thomas is buried Allotment 2622 Extension A, Division Select, Section 6.
They have also told me the info below.
We can certainly provide allotment maps which can help locate particular sites, as well as photographs of allotments, however there is a small fee for these services.

We cannot advise whether there is a monumental marker for this allotment, however, for a fee of $25.00  Per allotment (0.6% surcharge for credit card), we can arrange for photographs of the allotment to be taken and emailed to you. Please note, that we cannot guarantee  there will be a memorial or inscription on the allotment.

And for a fee of A$10.25 (0.6% surcharge for credit card) per allotment / or deceased when documentation is requested (in instances of multiple searches we can combine the information, if they are in the same section, which reduces the fee as multiple maps would not be required). The fee includes completion of the requested search and the supply of cemetery record, section and allotment maps which will include the provision of allotment details regarding the requested individual(s).

I hope I am not asking to big a request
Many thanks for any assistance
Ellen from Perth


 


Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Wednesday 04 October 17 11:03 BST (UK)
The only STEARN transcription for Waverley Cemetery is...

STEARN Walter Thomas  92 years 
Born   26 Aug 1865
Died    8 Oct 1957
Burial Place Waveryley Cemetery  Section 6 Select  Row 65
Section 6 Select  Row    65  Denomination Anglican

Inscription   Capt. R.N. Retired. b. 26 Aug 1865

Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 04 October 17 11:11 BST (UK)
There are no other Stearn with a headstone inscription, but that doesn't mean his wife isn't buried with him. No Scholer on the disc.

STEARN Mary Hetta Death notice 23-7-1955 Death late of Vaucluse Sydney Morning Herald 25-7-1955   

Jamjar
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Wednesday 04 October 17 11:17 BST (UK)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18225674
SCHOLER Florence Mary -May 24 1951 at her residence 26 Fitzwllllam Road Vaucluse dearly beloved wife and mate of Richard Scholer ond dearly loved daughter of Capt W T Stearn R N (Retd ) and Mrs H Stearn
Private cremation


Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Ellen Blackham on Wednesday 04 October 17 11:48 BST (UK)
Thank you Cando & Jamjar.
I knew he was a retired British Navy Captain & lived in Vaucluse so thought he might have had a headstone.
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Thursday 05 October 17 00:07 BST (UK)
I have given you a transcription of his headstone/plaque.

Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: rosball on Friday 06 October 17 00:16 BST (UK)
Death notice for Mary Hetta STEARN

Ros
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 06 October 17 00:51 BST (UK)
Probate packets often contain death certificate and other valuable information.

Mary Hetta STEARN Date of Death 23/07/1955, Granted on 25/10/1955 Series 4-437635 https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/936445
Walter Thomas STREAN Date of Death 08/10/1957, Granted on 18/11/1957 Series 4-468832 https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/968109
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 06 October 17 01:06 BST (UK)
SMH 17April1953 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18364862
SCHOLER, Richard (Dick) - April 15, 1953 (suddenly), at Lord Howe Island beloved husband of the late Florence Mary (Molly) and brother of Marie (Double Bay), Jean (Mrs Hoelscher, Rose Bay), and John (Batlow, NSW), late 1st A.I.F.

Probate Packet: https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/830966
Richard Scholer (or Schoeler) - Date of Death 15/04/1953, Granted on 03/07/1953
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Friday 06 October 17 03:54 BST (UK)
Ellen you asked for someone to photograph a possible headstone at Waverley and from the transcriptions of headstones compiled up to 2002, there is a headstone/marker on Walter's grave.  You still haven't received a response for someone to photograph it for you.  Hopefully someone a kind soul will help you. ;D

Best of luck
Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Ellen Blackham on Friday 06 October 17 05:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Cando, yes hoping someone might read the message & lives nearby the  Cemetery
Ellen
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Friday 06 October 17 05:57 BST (UK)
Ellen I should have thought of this before.  You can post a photo request on this website for Waverley Cemetery.  I did check previously to see if a photo of the STEARN grave was there.  Sadly no.

https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Waverley-Cemetery/147296

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: rosball on Friday 06 October 17 06:03 BST (UK)
Hi Ellen,
   I can photograph the probates records for you found by cupoflife the next time I am at NSW archives office if you wish.

Ros
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Ellen Blackham on Friday 06 October 17 06:32 BST (UK)
Thank you Ros that would be terrific really appreciate your help Regards Ellen
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: rosball on Friday 06 October 17 06:38 BST (UK)
Pleasure to help Ellen  :)
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 06 October 17 07:18 BST (UK)
I go down that way from time to time, was there a couple of weeks ago, but probably won't be going again for a few more weeks. Happy to help if you can wait. :)
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Billyblue on Friday 06 October 17 14:39 BST (UK)
There may not be a headstone.
If you put the details into austcemindex.com it confirms he is at Waverley Cemetery but says
'0 inscriptions' which I would take to mean no headstone.
But I guess you can still photograph the grave, at least.

Dawn M
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 06 October 17 14:42 BST (UK)
There may not be a headstone.
If you put the details into austcemindex.com it confirms he is at Waverley Cemetery but says
'0 inscriptions' which I would take to mean no headstone.
But I guess you can still photograph the grave, at least.

Dawn M

There must be a headstone, as there is an inscription which was transcribed and recorded onto the disc I have.

You can read the inscription in Reply #1

Jamjar
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 07 October 17 01:07 BST (UK)
Interesting. I wonder how long ago the CD was made, I..e. how long ago was that headstone viewed?  Sometimes they 'disappear' through vandalism, etc.
I did wonder, why the site didn't confirm grave location etc. when I put the info in.  Maybe it was malfunctioning?  Didn't seem to get the depth of information usually available ??? ??? ???

Let's hope the headstone is still there, then.
Dawn M
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Saturday 07 October 17 08:19 BST (UK)
I can't find Walter STEARN on Austcemindex and if you are searching his name with the cemetery it will bring up 0 inscriptions ie no entry.  Try searching his name without the cemetery and nothing.  Only 229 transcription entries for Waverley cemetery.  I think you have misinterpreted the results.

Inscriptions to 2002 on the CD published by the SAG.

Cando
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Ellen Blackham on Saturday 07 October 17 12:15 BST (UK)
Thank you Maddys52 no hurry whenever suits you, appreciate your help Regards Ellen
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 07 October 17 14:56 BST (UK)
I can't find Walter STEARN on Austcemindex and if you are searching his name with the cemetery it will bring up 0 inscriptions ie no entry.  Try searching his name without the cemetery and nothing.  Only 229 transcription entries for Waverley cemetery.  I think you have misinterpreted the results.

Inscriptions to 2002 on the CD published by the SAG.
Cando

Agree, Cando.  0 inscriptions to me means no headstone inscribed/ transcribed , i.e. he's not in the 229 that have been transcribed.  Did SAG publish a Cd with only 229 inscriptions??
  Waverley Cemetery has already confirmed to the OP that he is in that cemetery.  It's a huge cemetery, from my memory, and from some general photos on another site I found, very crowded. Remember that Austcemindex is an index of inscribed/transcribed headstones, not a record of all 'inhabitants'.  Though you found an inscription somewhere?  Was that from the SAG CD?

All a bit strange ???

Dawn M
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 08 October 17 03:11 BST (UK)
Thank you Maddys52 no hurry whenever suits you, appreciate your help Regards Ellen

No problem Ellen   :)
Title: Re: Walter Thomas Stearn
Post by: cando on Monday 09 October 17 01:15 BST (UK)
Dawn M I don't know what's strange.  You appear to have misunderstood the result from Auscemindex.  There isn't an entry for him at Waverley ie 0   It's obvious that volunteers have started to photograph and transcribe the photos of headstones at Waverley to the online database. 

My resource shows there is a plaque or headstone with an inscription.  All on the thread.

Thank you maddy for helping Ellen.  What goes round comes round ;D

Cando